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Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by Blackthorn »

wartywhoa23 wrote: post #467
Blackthorn wrote: post #169

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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of people. My irony detector is sparking so badly I think it's about to blow.

It always happens to the most deserving group of people before it happens to you, and then there's no one to voice any concerns about your own fate, because they all got what you supposed they deserved. TL;DR: The history of fascism and Nazism in the 1930s Europe.

This argument would be a lot more convincing if it wasn't the people actually doing the surveillance.

The ones who are doing the bad thing are the ones that are having that bad thing happen to them! That's good! That's how you get an actual change!

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

toasty228 wrote: post #471
2ndorderthought wrote: post #232

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As much as it's funny to dunk on meta this type of surveillance is becoming the norm. Failed start ups are selling all their emails, chats, commits, etc for companies to train on. Most job offers now come with statements about how you don't have right to your likeness, or your personal network I think most people assume that's for photo ops, but ... Yea. I expect more and more of this. products and product features r…

> As much as it's funny to dunk on meta this type of surveillance is becoming the norm. It already is illegal in developed and civilised countries

Well I see no effort for it in the US. So, keep everyone there in your thoughts and prayers. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by shermantanktop »

simmerup wrote: post #93
kridsdale1 wrote: post #59

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I insulted him in my mandatory Exit Interview form from HR when I resigned. It had no impact of recruiters trying to win me back since then.

Until the day when Zuckerberg meets you, and his Ray Ban glasses profile your face and pull up that comment on your exit interview as pertinent information. His eyes glaze over and he just reads that instead in his corner vision instead of listening to you, and you get snubbed forever more

That’d be a snub to cherish.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by stego-tech »

At some point, this level of data collection becomes toxic to the survival of the company. I'm floored that Legal keeps approving this given the stakes in future lawsuits.

Terminated for under-performance? Subpoena the surveillance data. Get their data scientists in for a deposition to explain the algorithm and schema.

All it takes is one disgruntled employee with deep enough pockets and a large enough axe to grind to turn this training data into nuclear waste that poisons the company top to bottom, but I'm confident nothing will change until that happens, at which point the current crop of leaders will already have their moneybags and have fucked off safely into the sunset.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by Dependance »

nikkwong wrote: post #434
isodev wrote: post #357

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I know right, so much pain and horror has been unleashed in the world by Meta… I have zero sympathy for their employees. Someone should’ve said no to developing this tech in the first place but here we are.

Former meta employee. It's not like people have an unlimited number of places to work, even if they have Meta on their resume. Many of my colleagues (and myself included) had struggled in the job market in the past before landing at Meta. If it's work for Meta, or suffer more tumult in the hiring market; it's easy to understand why many might decide to take the offer even with the moral implications. I used to bring…

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Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by butlike »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #232
Blackthorn wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of people. My irony detector is sparking so badly I think it's about to blow.

As much as it's funny to dunk on meta this type of surveillance is becoming the norm. Failed start ups are selling all their emails, chats, commits, etc for companies to train on. Most job offers now come with statements about how you don't have right to your likeness, or your personal network I think most people assume that's for photo ops, but ... Yea. I expect more and more of this. products and product features r…

The workers have always been assets though. They turn JIRA tickets into money. Any notion a company would treat a person as a human being and not a means to an end is unfounded, full-stop. The company is a machine that makes money. Machines do not have feelings.

Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Post by butlike »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #482
toasty228 wrote: post #471

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As much as it's funny to dunk on meta this type of surveillance is becoming the norm. It already is illegal in developed and civilised countries

Well I see no effort for it in the US. So, keep everyone there in your thoughts and prayers. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

They said developed AND civilized countries...
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