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Re: Hold on to Your Hardware

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Post by [deleted] »

underlipton wrote: post #428
joe_mamba wrote: post #392

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> As cheap as it was a couple of years ago. I also want housing as cheap as it was a couple of years ago.

You can have both. You just have to undo the forced bail-in of Millennial and Gen-Z/Alpha/Beta productivity to cover the debts and lifestyles of Silent Gen/Boomer/Gen-X asset holders. The insanity of contemporary markets doesn't reflect anything natural about the world's economic priorities, but instead the privileging of the priorities of that cohort. They've cornered control until enough people call bullshit. So, c…

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Re: Hold on to Your Hardware

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

alsetmusic wrote: post #479
stuxnet79 wrote: post #416

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> I'd like to say a brief thank you to what the brief, golden period of globalisation was able to bring us. Not everyone benefited. Market globalism wasn't particularly kind to the global south, and the specific mandates that the WTO enacted on countries in latin america / africa (Washington Consensus) greatly increased local wealth disparities despite visibly growing GDP for a time. America profited handsomely becau…

> but America is increasingly alienating itself from allies who it could stand to benefit from. We're a clown show and we don't deserve to have friends until we get our shit together.

And "your shit" is spreading further and further, press conference by press conference. In the last hour or two the great man dropped this quote regarding NATO:

"We would have always been there for them, but now, based on their actions, I guess we don't have to be, do we?" Trump told the audience.

"That sounds like a breaking story? Yes, sir. Is that breaking news? I think we just have breaking news, but that's the fact. I've been saying that. Why would we be there for them if they're not there for us? They weren't there for us."

I can't imagine how long it will take to get this shit back together enough that the US can be trusted again by the international community. One responsible government just means that everything that could be built within the four years of their administration could be torn up, burnt, shat on, and buried within two weeks of a new administration.

And yet there seems to be a base 30% support for the current behaviour.

I think the first thing to try and fix is the education system.

Re: Hold on to Your Hardware

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Post by kaiwenwang »

Really strikes me as hyperbole, because the article overestimate the solidity (as opposed to leakiness) of the real world and companies and their willingness to create such a feudal society.

The author with his custom designed website would be a much better spot to implement such a rent hardware scheme compared to the likes of HP.

Re: Hold on to Your Hardware

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Post by bitwize »

wwweston wrote: post #343
bitwize wrote: post #247

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Wait, you type the code in directly? That's like a baby's toy!

I realize this is probably said in jest, but just in case there are readers who don’t take it that way: * someone has to write language specifying a program, natural language or programming. * a programming langugage is a handle with specific properties at a specific level of abstraction. Whether it’s a popular handle won’t change that it’s far more than a toy.

It was also a direct reference to this scene from Back to the Future Part II: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KMy1zO8m8sM

Re: Hold on to Your Hardware

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Post by Animats »

molszanski wrote: post #114
raincole wrote: post #65

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We won't be in a supply crunch forever. We'll have a demand crunch. The demand of powerful consumer hardware will shrink so much that producing them will lose the economics of scale. It 've always been bound to happen, just delayed by the trend of pursuing realistic graphics for games. People who are willing to drop $20k on a computer might not be affected much tho.

> We won't be in a supply crunch forever. This what always happens in capitalism. Scarcity is almost always followed by glut

Not always. Try to buy a reasonably priced car or truck, with a price no higher than the last 20 years of inflation applied to a vehicle price from 20 years ago.

Re: Hold on to Your Hardware

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Post by [deleted] »

bit1993 wrote: post #396
m3nu wrote: post #131

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My bet is that phone hardware will be used more and more in mini PCs and laptops keeping the cost down and volume up. We see it with Apple and many Chinese mini PC makers I looked at.

All we need is for HDMI to be unlocked so it works on phones, or maybe VGA adapters that work on phones. And a way to "sideload" our own apps. Hackers please make this happen.

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Re: Hold on to Your Hardware

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Post by sgarland »

tristor wrote: post #381
sgarland wrote: post #353

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Tangential, I bought a nearly identically-spec'd (didn't spring for the 8 TB SSD - in retrospect, had I kept it, I would've been OK with the 4 TB) model, and returned it yesterday due to thermal throttling. I have an M4 Pro w/ 48 GB RAM, and since the M5 Max was touted as being quite a bit faster for various local LLM usages, I decided I'd try it. Turns out the heatsink in the 14" isn't nearly enough to handle the Ma…

I haven't really had a problem with thermal throttling, but my highest compute activity is inferencing. The main performance fall-off I've observed is that the cache/context size to token output rate curve is way more aggressive than I expected given the memory bandwidth compared to GPU-based inferencing I've done on PC. But other than spinning up the fans during prompt processing, I'm able to stay peak CPU usage wit…

CPU performance was acceptable; GPU was the one was that falling off a cliff.

Re: particular unit, I’m not sure - it was perfectly fine during anything “normal,” and admittedly, asking a laptop to run at 100% for any extended period of time is already a big ask. But it’s possible, I suppose.

I’m waiting for the Studios to get the Max and / or Ultra, and will reconsider if I want one, or if I don’t really need to play with local LLM at this time.

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Post by mrinterweb »

beloch wrote: post #465

The global memory shortage is something that will probably end, perhaps even soon. e.g. Google announced Turboquant[1] today. If as described, it would significantly reduce thirst for more RAM at data-centres. Even if it doesn't pan out, data centres aren't being built at the same rate as they're being financed due to the practical, but unavoidable, problem of finding enough power. Demand for memory may actually have…

If turboquant can reliably reduce LLM inference RAM requirements by 6x, suddenly reducing total RAM needs by 6x should have a dramatic shift on the hardware market, or at least we can all hope. I know 6x is the key-value cache saving, so I'm not sure if that really translates to 6x total RAM requirements decrease for inference.

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Post by chka »

This is already happening. Most VPS providers have raised prices 15-20% (last month I got emails from Hetzner & OVH even some tiny budget ones). The $5/month VPS that every self-hoster relies on is becoming very quuickly the $7-8/month VPS and that's before the memory shortage really hits.

Re: Hold on to Your Hardware

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Post by underlipton »

alsetmusic wrote: post #474
underlipton wrote: post #431

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>(Same like getting rid of awful flash player). I was looking up an old video game homepage the other day for some visual design guidance. It was archived on the Wayback Machine, but with Flash gone, so was the site. Ruffle can't account for every edge case. Flash was good. It was the bedrock of a massive chunk of the Old Net. The only thing awful are the people who pushed and cheered for its demise just so that Appl…

Flash was a dumpster fire on MacOS. Apple probably would have supported it on the iPhone if Adobe had stopped it from crashing apps and made it performant on Apple's primary platform at the time (the Mac). I remember pulling up crash logs for people showing them that Flash was in every one of the Safari crashes the wanted me to fix. I told them it was out of my hands.

All the other browsers managed it fine. That sounds like a Safari problem. Which would be totally in line with Apple's modus operandi.
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