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They could have used grindr too for more datapoints.
Grindr is for locating ships
Hahaha
France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app
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#482I don't understand, why is it hard to track or find such a large ship?
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#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was fitness tracker that posted locations without user names. Well, wouldn't you know, in Iraq there were all these square paths on the map. Yes, it was Americans jogging just inside the perimeter of small bases. Just like with the aircraft carrier, these bases were not secret but it shows how locations can leak unexpectedly.
The CdG incident is a little more serious given that about 90% of attacking a ship is figuring out where it is. Land bases don't move around and tend to be known already.
TBF a carrier group cannot be hidden from near-peer adversaries. I remember seeing a project that used CV with open data sat providers that could find smaller boats than that. (iirc they used a wake classifier, as that was the most obvious tell, even if the boat was small enough to not have enough pixels for identification).
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#484Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have to call out this disingenuous mob like language which is basically saying "because this person served in the military of a UN Security Council member, it is justifiable to murder them in the street years into their retirement" how is a submarine commander committing war crimes? by the same way of thinking, it would be completely justified for people from many countries to show up at random US service members h…
> how is a submarine commander committing war crimes? News reports from both Russia and Ukraine stated he was the commander of K-148 Krasnodar, a submarine that at the time of his command engaged in missile attacks on Ukrainian cities. From a BBC article: > Ukrainian media has said he could have been in command of the vessel when it carried out a missile attack on the Ukrainian city of Vinnytsia in July 2022, which k…
> Also, it's clear that a military officer is obviously a legitimate military target in a war.
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Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app
#485About 3 years ago, a former russian submarine commander accused of a missile attack in Ukraine that killed 23 civilians, was shot and killed, apparently after his route was tracked via Strava https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/11/europe/russian-submarine-... https://gijn.org/stories/investigations-using-strava-fitness...
This provides a great cover for intelligence agencies to avoid disclosing their actual data source. Just point to Strava and hand-wave a little. Nobody will suspect that you actually had an in via a close associate of the target.
It’s called parallel construction in many related circles and is used on a daily basis even in communities like yours.
For example, do you have information obtained from illegal surveillance technology to know of an illegal activity happening in a house? Well, why not just ask very forcefully of someone facing inflated jail time, whether they happen to remember… after thinking really hard about it… having seen that illegal activity in that particular house they definitely have been in, to get the warrant approved by a judge.
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#486Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fwiw, from the people I know using Strava, it's less about the sharing/reading other's efforts aspect that makes them use it, and more because of the analysis, dashboards and stuff like that.
> and more because of the analysis, dashboards and stuff like that Which is weird, because if they bought a Garmin device, they already have all that built in.
Which if you've ever had a Garmin device + tried Strava, you'd realize that perhaps Strava provides additional insights on top of what Garmin provides?
Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app
#487I'm surprised this has been on front page of HN all day. As others said, its a surface boat, you could just follow it with a plane, ship, or submarine. If someone knows where it is, everyone does. Would be more concerning if it was a submarine that was able to be tracked.
The aircraft career has a submarine and other ships to defend him.
So they are all at risk.
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#488Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was fitness tracker that posted locations without user names. Well, wouldn't you know, in Iraq there were all these square paths on the map. Yes, it was Americans jogging just inside the perimeter of small bases. Just like with the aircraft carrier, these bases were not secret but it shows how locations can leak unexpectedly.
Quick note that at least since WW2 there has been a technique where you know that the enemy is recording the location of something. So you add an offset to the signal they receive. Then they know where the thing is, but actually they do not. This was done with V2 missiles where the navigation system had a tendency to drift slightly one way (forget if it was north or south). British reported V2 strikes as occurring wh…
I think the navigation system was OK, we just said the impacts were further West than they actually were so the V2s fell on East London instead
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#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have to call out this disingenuous mob like language which is basically saying "because this person served in the military of a UN Security Council member, it is justifiable to murder them in the street years into their retirement" how is a submarine commander committing war crimes? by the same way of thinking, it would be completely justified for people from many countries to show up at random US service members h…
> how is a submarine commander committing war crimes? News reports from both Russia and Ukraine stated he was the commander of K-148 Krasnodar, a submarine that at the time of his command engaged in missile attacks on Ukrainian cities. From a BBC article: > Ukrainian media has said he could have been in command of the vessel when it carried out a missile attack on the Ukrainian city of Vinnytsia in July 2022, which k…
Who do you see as the “legitimate military target” in America due to America’s war of aggression on Iran? You imply it would be any military officer, anywhere, at any time, retired or not.
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It doesn't need to be anything nearly that dramatic as assassins, because economies of scale both lower the bar and make most attacks impersonal . Consider how odd it would be for someone in 2025 to say: "Computer security?I haven't done anything to personally offend a genius hacker." Imagine this data going to a burglar, who has a digital dashboard of nearby one-person properties and when the owner is likely to be o…
What a weird comment. The type of low-end criminal who commits home burglaries aren't sophisticated enough to do that level of research.
Low-end criminals fish based on data leaks all the time. More data, especially cross-referencable data, will make this ever easier.