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Murder is bad. Still, killing 200 people is not equivalent to killing 2 million people.
Those numbers don’t refer to anyone in this conflict.
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That's a huge problem (immediate, unjustified escalation to violence becoming the norm) and: > The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. "I feel unsafe" has become the catch-all excuse for everything in the recent decade. It's used to justify everything from Karen complaining about someone's behavior in public to people calling the cops…
> When did "I feel unsafe" become this ultimate i-can-do-anything-and-avoid-responsibility card? It only works if you deploy it against someone lower-status than you. The tactic is largely irrelevant and can be seamlessly replaced with any of a number of other tactics as needed. It's just enforcement of power hierarchies.
It really does only work when deployed against someone of a lower status. Just for example, if you imagine a sterotypical homeless man complaining that he felt unsafe against a sterotypical Karen, in the US there is no real chance he will be taken seriously regardless of the circumstances. It is more or less the "Get this peasant away from me" of our time.
I found your comment to be very insightful and I appreciate it banannaise
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#483This is a side effect of using a guerilla terrorist tactics - normal people are start to be seen as "threat".
A side effect of brutal oppression is that it drives people to use guerilla terrorist tactics.
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Technology IS politics. Technology is a form of control. And in the capitalist system, this control is mostly exerted by private companies, on which the rules of democracy do not apply. There must be guardrails
Technology is not a form of control at all. Technology is the practical application of things you know, to achieve things that don't happen naturally. Here's what the wiki says: > Technology is the application of conceptual knowledge to achieve practical goals, especially in a reproducible way. By this definition, the earliest wooden and stone tools, use of fire, wheel, agriculture, housing and clothing were all legi…
Stone tools, fire, the wheel and farming are forms of control. You learn that from prehistory; stone tools and fire provide the baseline for manufacturing, trade and warfare. Farming and transport creates a backbone for logistics and taxation. Each invention contributes to a greater degree of state-sanctioned control; "the people" rarely ever win.
The mischaracterization comes when people get comfortable assuming that technology cares about them. Your stone axe does not want to keep you alive; your iPhone has no self-preserving motivation to maintain privacy. Making these kinds of hopeful-but-foolish assumptions is how people become disenfranchised with progress and associate it with evil.
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#485I am German. My government does not acknowledge the tragedy that has been unfolding in Gaza since the Hamas attack in October 2023. It’s absurd. Since then, Jewish people in Berlin who were demonstrating alongside Palestinians against the war in Gaza have been beaten down by the German police. In 2021, Esther Bejarano, the last survivor of the Auschwitz Girls’ Orchestra, passed away in Hamburg. Whenever she commented…
While I agree with you on the case of Esther Bejerano (a recent example from public broadcasting shows that her own communist beliefs and support for BDS are seemingly 'censored' [0]), I find the general situation complicated. Although it should be easy for any half intellectual being to contextualize the recent Israeli aggression by mentioning October 7, like you did, this is often not done. At the same time I think…
> Germany is the reason why the whole mess exists in the first place.
I think this is the most unfair thing about it; Germany might be the reason, but it’s not Germans paying the consequences. It’s not 70k dead Germans, but 70k dead Palestinians (a Semitic people).
I can understand thefeeling of wanting to make amends for their crimes, but they are making amends by now allowing a whole new genocide to occur, against a completely unrelated people.
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#486Eh, tbh I've given up. Can't point out the terrible things that the IDF are up to without being labelled an apologist, or terrorist supporter, or just getting a massively negative reaction. Now I'm not one to fall prey to the conspiracy theories around Judaism...but like...is it not possible to say that both hamas and the IDF do terrible things? And that innocent civilians are caught in between, with the usual bad fa…
If you feel the need to temper your speech to avoid offending people you are using the wrong moral compass. There are plenty of good reasons to speak carefully, thoughtfully and compassionately, but avoiding criticism is not a good reason.
I'm not avoiding criticism, I'm avoiding very real legal repercussions by treading so lightly. Lest I get caught in the crossfire.
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“ 82 percent of respondents supported the expulsion of Gaza's residents, while 56 percent favored expelling Palestinian citizens of Israel.” “ Nearly half (47 percent) of respondents agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants." Israeli society has a very, very strong genocidal current. https://a…
a poll of 1000 people in a country of 7 million.. ouch!!! got me!!!
> poll of 1000 people
Yes… that’s how polls work…
Do you have an actual rebuttal or have the wounds to your ego and identity rendered you incapable of substantive responses?
Genocidal attitudes pervade Israeli society; both its leaders and its citizens.
Surveys by the aChord Center at the Hebrew University found that 64% of Jewish Israelis believe there are "no innocent people" in the Gaza Strip
“ Israel's military has dropped the prosecution of five reservists accused of the violent rape of a Palestinian man … The shocking incident in July 2024 was caught on CCTV and later broadcast on Israeli television“
“ In a statement, the country's Defence Minister Israel Katz welcomed a decision by the military's top prosecutor to drop the charges, declaring "justice has been served".
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-13/israel-idf-drops-sde-...
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I'm going to repost and elaborate on a reply of mine that appears to be shadow dead with no explanation. This doesn't seem to be the usual result of disagreement flagging. The only problem I can see is that perhaps this did not meet the level of substantiveness expected from an HN comment (OTOH I don't see how what it was replying to would meet this either, and mine is at least coming from the direction of intellectu…
That's pretty crazy mental gymnastics. Palestinians have been attacking Israel civilians forever. They strapped bombs under their kids beds, etc. It's clear they don't value Israeli life, nor their own. They have been indoctrinated to hate jews before birth. There is nothing controversial about it. Israel has been doing their best to avoid civilian deaths, polar opposite of Palestinian behavior. Yes mistakes have been made, but trying to equate the two is deliberate misinformation.
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I'm going to repost and elaborate on a reply of mine that appears to be shadow dead with no explanation. This doesn't seem to be the usual result of disagreement flagging. The only problem I can see is that perhaps this did not meet the level of substantiveness expected from an HN comment (OTOH I don't see how what it was replying to would meet this either, and mine is at least coming from the direction of intellectu…
That's pretty crazy mental gymnastics. Palestinians have been attacking Israel civilians forever. They strapped bombs under their kids beds, etc. It's clear they don't value Israeli life, nor their own. They have been indoctrinated to hate jews before birth. There is nothing controversial about it. Israel has been doing their best to avoid civilian deaths, polar opposite of Palestinian behavior. Yes mistakes have bee…
Please elaborate on what exactly you're calling "crazy mental gymnastics". Your followup points are merely textbook dehumanization of an entire group. So as I said, cycle of violence.
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There are horrific acts on both sides going back very very far. I grew up in a country with a relatively balanced media reporting on the issue and have tried my best to stay informed. Suicide bombings, bus hijackings, mass murders. The inequality in force applied has still been a constant. Also, the fact is that any peace deal has been made impossible by the hunting down and killing of anyone that could actually hold…
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I try my best to keep a nuanced discussion going here and you obviously have no interest in this. Enjoy your flagged post.