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Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by nlitened »

stingraycharles wrote: post #450
hnburnsy wrote: post #430

>Ultra-low latency audio and Lossless Audio listening requires a wired USB‑C connection and compatible content from supported apps and services. (5) >(5) Ultra-low latency audio and Lossless Audio listening requires a wired USB‑C connection and compatible content from supported apps and services. Soooooooo Apple, you gonna tell us which content, apps, and services are compatible? On another note, it seems excessive t…

Most offerings (eg Apple Music) already has lossless audio for a while, as does Spotify, as it has been supported for the previous generation of AirPods Max already (ie this is not a new feature) and wirelessly on the AirPods Pro 2. Why they don’t support it wirelessly on the AirPods Max 2, which should be a superior product to the AirPods Pro 2, is beyond me.

If I had to guess, I think it’s marketing — just like adding weights to the insides to make them feel more “premium”.

I’d guess that the target audience would argue that real lossless music experience requires high-bandwidth wires, and is not possible over the air without degradation.

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Post by hnlmorg »

zeagle wrote: post #449
georgespencer wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And then guess who bought Beats for their exquisite metal weight technology? That's right, it was Apple. It's self-evidently extremely disingenuous to claim that Apple bought Beats for their "exquisite metal weight technology", so I thought I'd double check your claim that there are "metal weights" inside Beats headphones. All of this appears to stem from two blog posts, written by the same VC.[^1] The first time t…

Exactly. Look at something like the Sony XM5s that have a defective design that breaks in a light wind. There a class action against them for the crap they pulled and refusal to warranty. Not that I’m bitter at them or anything.

Nothing new here then. Back when I used to DJ some 20+ years ago, people would complain back then that Sony headphones would constantly break on them.

Meanwhile I had Sennheisers and they could take an absolute beating and still work fine. While also being plastic and cheap looking in comparison to other brands in the same price packet.

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Post by hnlmorg »

wil421 wrote: post #308
larrik wrote: post #206

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As someone who has never seen these or paid attention to them I was thinking "how heavy could they possibly be?" Then I saw 13.6 oz and I was blown away. That's actually really heavy for headphones!

People wear them at work daily and it doesn’t seem to be a problem. One guy looks likes he’s Tier 3 support and uses them 8 hours a day 5 days a week for years. People compliment my Jabra’s voice quality otherwise I would’ve switched already.

I have a pair and they’re fine for wearing when sat down. In fact they’re my preferred headphones for airplane journeys and noisy offices because the noise cancelling is top notch.

However I tried to wear them one on a train commute and it was horrid. Walking around with them really isn’t fun precisely because of their weight.

Every head movement feels like hard work and the headphones don’t even feel stable on your head during any movement due to the weight.

So I end up owned two headphones (well, technically 3):

1. AirPod Max for focus time

2. Sennheiser earphones (in ear) for commuting / exercise workouts.

3. Sennheiser DJ cans for DJing, video streaming and other times when I need wired, zero latency, audio.

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Post by mikehall314 »

mikehall314 wrote: post #478
ffsm8 wrote: post #452

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Personally the thing that really surprised me about mine was the amount of condense water builds up under the pads when I'm wearing it over a workday. My noise cancelling started to go flaky until I stumbled upon that - after I've dried it off after every use and stopped using the "case" /store pads separately from headphone things improved a lot again. It feels like a serious design issue, I'm really confused why so…

Yeah, the condensation issue was a problem for me too. I ended up having to take them in for repair to Apple several times. The noise cancellation went flakey, the auto-switching went flakey, they would crash [1] if lifted one cup from the side of my head. Apple ended up replacing them completely, but then the new pair eventually developed all the same faults. I hope some of these are addressed in the new models, bec…

[1] Playing audio would stop, the noise cancellation would shut off, they would disconnect from my phone, seemingly reboot, then reconnect again.

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Post by [deleted] »

billforsternz wrote: post #435
foxwell_1959 wrote: post #218

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Thats 386,2 gram for the rest of the world.

386 grams, the extra 0.2 grams is not only irrelevant it's non existent because the process of converting from one measurement standard to another never increases the precision of the measurement. Using 3 digits of precision also avoids being temped to use the rather niche ,2 convention when claiming to embrace a region as large as the rest of the world.

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Post by officerk »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #114

I don't understand how a pair of headphones can be $549 meanwhile the Macbook Neo is $599 The pricing on these always seemed a bit crazy to me, like the value is way off compared to other Apple products

Didn't they sell wheels at $699 and a monitor stand at over a $1000?

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Post by davidhunter »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #114

I don't understand how a pair of headphones can be $549 meanwhile the Macbook Neo is $599 The pricing on these always seemed a bit crazy to me, like the value is way off compared to other Apple products

If you don’t understand then you should invest some time learning microeconomics, marketing, and moats. Principles from (at least) those 3 areas are involved here.

To give 3 examples:

1. The marginal value of these products is in the mind of the individual buyer. No individual is buying both the AirPods Max 2 AND the MacBook Neo for personal use. You can’t compare marginal value across two different individuals.

2. The MacBook Neo has a different set of substitutable goods vs the AirPods Max 2. This affects margin. AirPods Max 2 buyers are likely heavily bought into the Apple ecosystem already.

3. With the Neo, Apple are in some sense subsidising entry into the Apple Ecosystem and ‘getting them young’. Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s zero or negative margin. With the AirPods Max 2 they are exploiting people who are already bought into the ecosystem. Margins will be high.

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Post by auggierose »

pokstad wrote: post #329

You know what would be ground breaking from a company that prides itself on environmental sustainability? A replaceable battery. These headphones are all garbage once the lithium battery reaches end of life.

Battery on Airpods Max is replaceable.

Re: AirPods Max 2

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Post by trymas »

sulam wrote: post #461

So much hate for these, but they do one thing really really well, which is handle a full 14 hour flight with no charge and great noise cancellation. That the noise cancellation on the new model is even better will probably make them a buy for me.

What? Aren't all over-ear ANC wireless headphones capable of that?

Sony WH-1000XM and Bose QuietComfort can do 24h on bluetooth + ANC if not more.

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