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Re: Hollywood Enters Oscars Weekend in Existential Crisis

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Post by mschuster91 »

shiroiuma wrote: post #414
mschuster91 wrote: post #343

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> I don't need "sound experience" to enjoy a movie. Unfortunately, most cinema movies are not properly remastered in their audio tracks, but keep the original cinema mix. That results in very silent dialogue (which is not a problem in a cinema, at least as long as people behave and don't yap around all the time) and very loud sequences particularly in action shots. When you now give such a movie to your usual home th…

>you have to turn up the volume enough so you can understand the dialogue and either constantly turn it down whenever it gets heated or live with neighbors complaining. It doesn't help that many actors these days have become students of the "mumble acting" school of acting. It's amazing watching some 50-year-old movie from the 70s and the dialog is crystal-clear and perfectly understandable.

> It's amazing watching some 50-year-old movie from the 70s and the dialog is crystal-clear and perfectly understandable.

Back then dynamic range in cinemas also wasn't there and TVs were mono as well. You couldn't fix stuff in post to a large degree either, so in moviemaking you were all but forced to have sets as quiet as possible and actors speak clearly.

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Post by g947o »

cycomanic wrote: post #277
g947o wrote: post #114

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Then I guess you aren't familiar with the 20 minutes of trailers, 1 minute of Cocacola ad and 2 minutes of other completely irrelevant content before the movie actually begins.

Well at least it's not Amazon prime where they now interrupt the movie for the same ad/trailer 3 for weeks unless you pay extra again. Fwiw I always enjoyed the trailers at the movies, no the other ads I could very much do away with (and I used to purposefully come late to shows to miss the ads).

I don't necessarily hate the trailers per se, but this is about time management.

If the whole preshow is 10 minutes like in the theater where I used to live a few years ago, that is still somewhat more acceptable. But these days, with 20-25 min of preshow, were I to arrive at the showtime, I'd be looking at spending 1hr extra just to see a movie compared to watching it home (consider the time it takes to travel and maybe wait in the line for concessions).

I'm sure that's what lots of people do and many people are totally fine with this. Not me. I have got too much going on to spare that 1hr, especially on a weekday evening. I have to intentionally leave late to arrive on time to justify even going to the theater at all.

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Post by pjmlp »

WarmWash wrote: post #96

My fiance mentioned we haven't gone to see a movie in theaters in years and it would be fun to go. I checked what was playing and: 2 tickets, 2 sodas, 1 popcorn. $86 dollars. Don't know if I'll ever go to a conventional movie theater again.

That is the problem, everyone complains about Netflix, Prime and co, but going to cinema currently can pay for a couple of months in subscriptions.

I get the experience and that there are employees to pay, and such, but if companies want people to still go the movies, they need to ramp those prices down in some way.

In Europe I only go to alternative cinemas which happen to be part of the movie pass network, called Gildepass in Germany.

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

shiroiuma wrote: post #412
rayiner wrote: post #335

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I went with my daughter to see Taylor Swift in Tokyo. It was an amazing experiences. Swift fans prefer recording Tokyo performances because fangs don’t sing along to the music or talk during the performance.

I saw Avatar 3 here in Tokyo where I live. It was great! I saw the Dolby 3D version. Popcorn was pretty cheap, tickets were reasonably priced, the audience was as quiet as the dead. I've seen several other movies (normal ones, not 3D/IMAX/etc.) here since I moved here, and they were all the same. Audiences here have excellent behavior. We're planning to see Project Hail Mary this weekend when it comes out, this time…

Japan is a whole other level of respectful. I have seen a movie in the US in 10 years because when I go people are on their phones or talking

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

thefounder wrote: post #471
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #67

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Yes they should never had a Black lady playing an orange alien from Tamarin on the Titan TV series. It just wasn’t realistic. We should just have all White males leading movies

Why can’t we have original stories(I.e Sinners, Black Panther, White Lotus) and instead try to make White Snow black or whatever and paint people racist? I get that people want to make these stories more inclusive but the characters are just too powerful to change them and not expect a backlash. People prefer new characters or “staying true to the original story/character” instead of lazy remixes. Or you can create y…

Starfire is an orange alien from Tamarin in the comics and people said she shouldn’t be Black in live action or the green witch in Wicked.

Should Annie also not have been Black in the remake? If we want to stay “true” to the original stories, we have to only have Black characters as freed slaves shucking and jiving singing “zippity do dah”.

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Post by lewispollard »

BrenBarn wrote: post #450
bloomingeek wrote: post #284

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Sort of off topic, but almost the same can be said for music concerts. During slower or softer songs, people can be heard talking and laughing loudly. I get it, they paid their money, same as us, but we didn't pay to hear them.

Curious if you have a sense of how long this has been going on. My perception is that various sorts of rudeness and inconsiderateness have been on the rise for a while, but really jumped post-COVID. Some of it is minor but just suggests to me that many people lack any sense that they should be aware of others around them. Just today I was walking down the street and a woman was stopped, in the middle of the sidewalk,…

Definitely post-COVID. I remember going to see bands in between or just after lockdowns ended, and even the bands were taken aback by the change in audience behaviour, commenting on it. Lots of self-entitled behaviour, talking and even yelling out during quiet moments, people walking up to the stage during a seated Nick Cave concert demanding to hand him stuff or shake his hand - I remember him saying "wow, you guys really forgot how to behave over the last couple of years". Now it just seems to be normalised that crowd behaviour is worse, more self-entitled. I'm not sure what's driving it - whether people who previously weren't going to gigs decided, during lockdown, that they wanted to go out and do stuff more, but just had never learned the etiquette, and/or social media making the experience about the individual rather than the performance.

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Post by wvbdmp »

bradchris wrote: post #465
socalgal2 wrote: post #230

If Sinners and One Battle After Another are up for movie of the year then it's no wonder no one is going. One is a fun but ultimately forgettable horror action movie. The other is a movie that just based on its major theme would attract less then half the country and even in those remaining is a very polarizing movie. It's up for best picture because to preach, not because it's actually good.

I can’t agree with this statement because One Battle After Another is actually a movie about fatherhood and the lengths you go to to raise a child, and very explicitly makes fun of how many “fight the power” movements are often ineffective or devolve into making the problem you’re fighting against worse. It’s a movie about family loyalties transcending and persisting through all else, which is a pretty universal mess…

I agree that it paints both sides as silly, but it does so incredibly badly. This is evidenced by, eg., the comments on Letterboxd, who all seem to either think their outgroup is lampooned (yay 5 stars) or their ingroup is slighted (grr 1 star). The movie set out to combat division and failed catastrophically. At least that’s my charitable interpretation. It’s also too long, lol.

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Post by someguynamedq »

jbm wrote: post #437
longislandguido wrote: post #212

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Most if not all the ticket price goes directly into the studio's pockets. So the theatres stay alive by selling concessions. I'd wager everyone here complaining about prices would also wax poetic about how theatres don't "pay a living wage" to the kids scooping popcorn and would immediately drive home in their $100k Rivians or Teslas so they can give a one star review on Yelp or complain on Reddit about the bathrooms…

Side note - My 2019 Tesla Model 3 is worth 8000$. Canadian. A rich person does not drive a Tesla.

Prices have come down but that's not a real price unless there's something seriously wrong with your car. i'm seeing ~15 at the lowest

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Post by thefounder »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #485
thefounder wrote: post #471

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can’t we have original stories(I.e Sinners, Black Panther, White Lotus) and instead try to make White Snow black or whatever and paint people racist? I get that people want to make these stories more inclusive but the characters are just too powerful to change them and not expect a backlash. People prefer new characters or “staying true to the original story/character” instead of lazy remixes. Or you can create y…

Starfire is an orange alien from Tamarin in the comics and people said she shouldn’t be Black in live action or the green witch in Wicked. Should Annie also not have been Black in the remake? If we want to stay “true” to the original stories, we have to only have Black characters as freed slaves shucking and jiving singing “zippity do dah”.

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Re: Hollywood Enters Oscars Weekend in Existential Crisis

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Post by meta_gunslinger »

mpalmer wrote: post #9

Another victim of the efficiency of the market. Market forces know no culture except what consumers pay for. Absent real care, stewardship and focused investment, the product will always get cheaper. And of course consumers' tastes are under attack from another direction: their attention spans. Some load-bearing pillars of human culture are weakening.

More like a victim of woke propagandizing not being very popular with the average viewer.
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