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Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by IshKebab »

timothyduong wrote: post #272
PaulHoule wrote: post #227

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I’ll add that MacOS is crammed with spammy ads for Apple Music and other services I don’t want. To be fair somebody wants Apple Music whereas the Microsoft versions of those things are completely unwanted. Ads and nags in the Windows World are drawn using the same HTML-based technology that has replaced Windows native apps since Windows 8, the ads and nags in MacOS are the 2025 anti-antialiased retreads of the 1999 M…

Just wait til she jumps on a windows 11 device! But I do agree with you. Thankfully it is minimal relative to windows.

Just install Windows IoT LTSC. Zero ads.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by bhouston »

ajross wrote: post #243
jimbokun wrote: post #206

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As a developer my quality of work life improved radically when they let me have a Mac instead of the Windows laptop I was using.

Were you 3x as productive though? That's the analysis "they" tend to be doing. I don't even use windows (beyond gaming). The Jedi and I are just off on the ends of the bell curve pointing and the stupid numbers on the stupid price tag.

> Were you 3x as productive though? That's the analysis "they" tend to be doing.

3x productive, is that because the Mac is 3x more expensive than the windows?

that is a logic error if so. You should look at the total output of the human / cost + equipment.

If the output of the human is 10% higher but the cost is only a fraction of their monthly salary, then it is worth it.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by Frannky »

I love it. I still use a 2020 M1 since I had not had a reason to change it. So smooth and fast and silent and thin. I don't really have a reason to buy a new one but if it broke or I lost it I would for sure buy this new one. Pros are too bulky for me. The only thing I miss I the ability to run local big models at high token rate.

Taking into account Tesla chips deliver way more intelligence on smaller hardware maybe we will get there, a glm5 model running locally at 100 tokens/sec would be really dope!

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by adrian_b »

std_move wrote: post #216

This is the best laptop for the general consumer around $1k. - it has no annoying fans, it is completely silent - a high res display with no PWM flickering and reasonable response times, no burn-in issues, enough brightness for outdoor use - best-in-class hardware, very very efficient, amazing single thread performance, good multi thread, very good GPU - no Microsoft Windows annoyances, ads, bloatware, broken stuff a…

I am probably not a "general consumer", so a description like

"MacBook Air with M5 now comes standard with 512GB of storage — double that of the previous generation — and can be configured up to 4TB for the first time"

for me sounds terrible in a very bad sense for a computer around $1k, so I would have never bought something like this even many years ago.

To be fair, due to the huge increase in the price of SSDs and DRAM, a 512 GB SSD @ $1100 no longer sounds so bad as one year ago, but it is still bad.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by adrian_b »

jurgenburgen wrote: post #476
vbezhenar wrote: post #443

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There are Intel CPUs which come with bundled RAM. For example Intel Core Ultra 5 238V. It's like SoM: RAM is mounted directly on the CPU package, not even soldered on the motherboard. I'm not sure what particular advantages does that bring over traditional packaging, maybe shorter wires to allow for faster turnarounds between CPU and RAM. But there's zero chance of upgrading or replacing RAM for sure.

> I'm not sure what particular advantages does that bring over traditional packaging Massive increase in bandwidth, which is useful for e.g. running local LLMs.

In theory, but that is not the case with Lunar Lake, which nowadays does not have a greater bandwidth than the current CPUs with external LPDDR memory.

However, at launch, a year and a half ago, it had a bandwidth about 15% higher than competing CPUs.

For a really "massive increase in bandwidth", it would have needed a wider memory interface, like AMD Ryzen Max, which has a 256-bit memory interface, instead of the 128-bit memory interface of most Intel/AMD laptop CPUs.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by adrian_b »

fiedzia wrote: post #444
mikae1 wrote: post #320

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> You can maybe get a cheaper Windows laptop but it will be terrible in almost everything It will be worse at almost everything, except running my preferred OS (Linux). Being able to upgrade/repair RAM, storage and battery at home is quite a perk too.

> Being able to upgrade/repair RAM Most upcoming laptops now have soldered RAM and soldered wifi becomes common too.

Soldered RAM is not necessarily bad, because it is usually more reliable than SODIMMs, so it is less likely to require replacements before other parts fail and it is less likely to suffer from transient hardware errors that are not caught due to the lack of ECC memory in most laptops and mini-PCs.

However I consider soldered SSDs and/or soldered batteries as completely unacceptable, as they limit the lifetime of a computer to low values.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by ajross »

bhouston wrote: post #482
ajross wrote: post #243

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Were you 3x as productive though? That's the analysis "they" tend to be doing. I don't even use windows (beyond gaming). The Jedi and I are just off on the ends of the bell curve pointing and the stupid numbers on the stupid price tag.

> Were you 3x as productive though? That's the analysis "they" tend to be doing. 3x productive, is that because the Mac is 3x more expensive than the windows? that is a logic error if so. You should look at the total output of the human / cost + equipment. If the output of the human is 10% higher but the cost is only a fraction of their monthly salary, then it is worth it.

And I repeat, you're doing a meme like performance art:

Me: The windows junk is three times cheaper and does the same thing.

You: "You should look at the total output of the human / cost + equipment. If the output of the human is 10% higher but the cost is only a fraction of their monthly salary, then it is worth it"

Jedi: The windows junk is three times cheaper and does the same thing.

I mean, I'm not actually as dumb as the chad in the meme. I know how to do division. I'm just unwilling to accept your framing like "10% higher output" without evidence, and am pointing to the bleedingly obvious and extremely large signal (price) that I can measure.

99.999% of the time, the obvious hypothesis is the right one. And the obvious hypothesis is that macs are outrageously overpriced and you should just by an Asus Whatnot instead.

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by bornfreddy »

criddell wrote: post #212
actionfromafar wrote: post #46

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I like the touchpad. Is there any competitor which is as good and exact? I noticed in Linux, it's not as exact.

Thinkpad touchpads are mediocre at best. Dell’s are a little worse than that IMHO. I don’t understand why other laptop manufacturers don’t copy the Apple trackpad.

I liked Dell one, loved ThinkPad, and hate MBP trackpad. I guess it's a matter of taste?

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by rootnod3 »

noman-land wrote: post #297
std_move wrote: post #216

This is the best laptop for the general consumer around $1k. - it has no annoying fans, it is completely silent - a high res display with no PWM flickering and reasonable response times, no burn-in issues, enough brightness for outdoor use - best-in-class hardware, very very efficient, amazing single thread performance, good multi thread, very good GPU - no Microsoft Windows annoyances, ads, bloatware, broken stuff a…

"it has no annoying fans" I beg to differ ;)

Credit where credit is due

Re: MacBook Air with M5

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Post by alfiedotwtf »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #442
JoshTriplett wrote: post #334

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> How’s ACPI and real suspend On a current ThinkPad? Essentially perfect. Zero problems suspending and resuming, no matter what's going on, including weird cases like suspending while docked and resuming while undocked or vice versa.

Do current thinkpads still have real suspend? I thought it was discontinued by intel. And if they do, how do you enable it? I haven’t seen anything in the bios of my p14s g6

Sadly, this is what I thought. Nobody wants to open their backpack to find a warm helicopter
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