Why is it so hard to make a phone without camera bump? Not each table has a strategically placed depression so the phone would lie neatly on the table and do not wobble.
iPhone 17e
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#482Still no support for "actually owning your device." Disappointing.
Considering that no major phone or carrier has embraced that model why would you expect it to suddenly appear here?
Oneplus? they consistently give you the option to unlock the bootloader and install your custom ROM
Re: iPhone 17e
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Cloud storage do not help you sharing that old photo album with friends spending the night in a cabin far from the closest cell phone coverage. Also, cloud service typically move your older stuff to colder/slower storage which are painfully slow to retrieve whenever you decides to do it. I realized this when browsing some old pictures before closing a google account I had not been using for years except emptying the…
The iCloud backup built into the iPhone for me seems quite seamless. As I mentioned in another comment, I have several thousand photos and videos that don’t fit on my phone because it’s only a 64 GB device. It’s been this way for many years. But I can still scroll back and see all the photos. And when I click one I view it instantly. I’ve never noticed any lag or any problems associated with the cloud backup. It feel…
First that’s not iCloud backup but iCloud Photo Library. Second, I’ve experienced data loss with exactly this feature. I stopped using it in 2021 after using it for six years from 2015.
Re: iPhone 17e
#484Why is it so hard to make a phone without camera bump? Not each table has a strategically placed depression so the phone would lie neatly on the table and do not wobble.
Google recently released a smartphone without a camera bump: Pixel 10a.
Re: iPhone 17e
#485Why is it so hard to make a phone without camera bump? Not each table has a strategically placed depression so the phone would lie neatly on the table and do not wobble.
I believe at least some versions of Google Pixel don't have a camera bump (if you don't mind using a Google phone).
Re: iPhone 17e
#486I wonder if the Small Android Phone project has moved forward since the last time it was posted here: https://smallandroidphone.com
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So I've never gotten a satisfactory answer as to why there aren't interesting niche phones that don't sell a ton (anymore: android used to be full of them, that was half the point), but are enough for a small company to make consistent (but small) profits. People who want niche phones are a tiny fraction of the market....but the smartphone market is enormous . A tiny fraction seems like it should be able to sustain a…
My guess is they are only able to make the phones cheap if it’s sold at huge scale. If you make some niche small phone, the price goes way up and doesn’t look attractive. Then you have to deal with the fact that the people with obscure requirements have a million other requirements. The person asking for a small phone then complains it doesn’t have a headphone jack, and AV1 decoding, and 16gb memory, and an unlocked…
While being more expensive even further decreases your niche size, it still isn't obvious to me that this should be enough to prevent the niche from existing. I am one of those customers you talk about who has a lot of obscure preferences (I can't call them requirements because literally not a single existing phone matches all of them and yet I still buy phones). A phone that met most of them would be something I'd be willing to pay a pretty good premium for.
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Yes and even though you haven’t watched TV in 20 years ((c) Slashdot) people still watch TV. The feigned ignorance on HN that most normal people don’t pull their laptops out to do everything in 2026 is amazing
It‘s also generational. My 18yo sister in law is now applying for colleges and the word “application” immediately made her look for an app. That the whole process happened on a (not mobile friendly) website was rather surprising to her. (English is her 3rd language)
I am 51. The amount of Ludditism on HN shouldn’t come as a surprise to me. But it does. Most older 70+ year old people I know don’t own a computer at all and would never use one. But they do know how to get to things they need on their phones.
Re: iPhone 17e
#489Why is it so hard to make a phone without camera bump? Not each table has a strategically placed depression so the phone would lie neatly on the table and do not wobble.
I believe at least some versions of Google Pixel don't have a camera bump (if you don't mind using a Google phone).
I don't mind the bump on most Pixels because it goes all the way across the phone. So it's still stable on surfaces.
Re: iPhone 17e
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I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…
Until you hit 'Search' at the bottom right it shows you a preview result set - that can differ completely from the one you get then. Because two are not enough, they added a third with 'Siri suggestions' as top row. Which is not in the Search settings but in the ones for Siri. The iOS docs[1] misname it as 'Suggest App' when it is called 'Suggest Apps Before Searching' which only the iPadOS docs [2] get right. Did I…
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