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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by Nevermark »

sathish316 wrote: post #399
Aurornis wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This buy out for something vibe coded I think all of these comments about acquisitions or buy outs aren’t reading the blog post carefully: The post isn’t saying OpenClaw was acquired. It’s saying that Pete is joining OpenAI. There are two sentences at the top that sum it up: > I’m joining OpenAI to work on bringing agents to everyone. OpenClaw will move to a foundation and stay open and independent. OpenClaw was no…

I think the blog says @steipete sold his SOUL.md for Sam Altman’s deal and let down the community. OpenClaw’s promise and power was that it could tread places security-wise that no other established enterprise company could, by not taking itself seriously and explore what is possible with self-modifying agents in a fun way. It will end up in the same fate as Manus. Instead of Manus helping Meta making Ads better, Ope…

> OpenClaw’s promise and power was that it could tread places SECURITY-WISE that no other established enterprise company could

[Emphasis mine.]

That's a superpower right up to the moment everyone realizes that handing out nukes isn't "promise and power".

Unless by promise and power we are talking about chaos and crime.

The project is incredible. We are seeing something important: how versatile these models are given freedom to act and communicate with each other.

At the same time, it is clearly going to put the internet at risk. Bad actors are going to use OpenClaw and its "security-wise" freedoms, in nefarious ways. Curious people are going to push AI's with funds onto prepaid servers, then let them sink or swim with regard to agentic acquisition of survival resources.

It is all kinds of crazy from here.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by croes »

abalone wrote: post #440
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

I think this comment misses that OpenAI hired the guy, not the project. "This guy was able to vibe code a major thing" is exactly the reason they hired him. Like it or not, so-called vibe coding is the new norm for productive software development and probably what got their attention is that this guy is more or less in the top tier of vibe coders. And laser focused on helpful agents. The open source project, which wi…

So creating unsafe software is the new norm?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by karmasimida »

AJRF wrote: post #29

The amount of negative posts about this on twitter is crazy, I've not seen any positive posts. Jealousy or something else?

I am fine with the founder joining OpenAI, he gets to get paid regardless.

I am not confident that the open source version will get the maintenance it deserves though, now the founder has already exited. There is no incentive for OpenAI to keep the open sourced version better than their future closed source alternative.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by neya »

TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

I am not a fan of OpenAI but they are not exactly hiring a security researcher. They are hiring an aspiring builder who has built something the masses love. They can always provide him the structure and support he needs to make his products secure. It's not mutually exclusive (safety vs hiring him).

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by tacomagick »

croes wrote: post #482
abalone wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this comment misses that OpenAI hired the guy, not the project. "This guy was able to vibe code a major thing" is exactly the reason they hired him. Like it or not, so-called vibe coding is the new norm for productive software development and probably what got their attention is that this guy is more or less in the top tier of vibe coders. And laser focused on helpful agents. The open source project, which wi…

So creating unsafe software is the new norm?

Yes pretty much. See the Windows 11 security vulnerability chaos going on.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by ohmahjong »

pdyc wrote: post #479

I think peter was mostly using calude and to a lesser extent codex and claude was getting a free marketing. If he can just improve codex to work better with openclaw it will be a big win for openai. If he can make openai agent at par with openclaw with added safety/security it would be a big win too. Its a smart move by openai and i totally get it.

Peter was quite vocal on twitter about _only_ using Codex to develop OpenClaw, but Claude is what a majority of people were (are?) using to run the tool itself.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

abalone wrote: post #440
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

I think this comment misses that OpenAI hired the guy, not the project. "This guy was able to vibe code a major thing" is exactly the reason they hired him. Like it or not, so-called vibe coding is the new norm for productive software development and probably what got their attention is that this guy is more or less in the top tier of vibe coders. And laser focused on helpful agents. The open source project, which wi…

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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by isoprophlex »

croes wrote: post #482
abalone wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this comment misses that OpenAI hired the guy, not the project. "This guy was able to vibe code a major thing" is exactly the reason they hired him. Like it or not, so-called vibe coding is the new norm for productive software development and probably what got their attention is that this guy is more or less in the top tier of vibe coders. And laser focused on helpful agents. The open source project, which wi…

So creating unsafe software is the new norm?

Always has been.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by Windchaser »

krick wrote: post #326
Ampned wrote: post #96

It’s not like Anthropic or OpenAI were not working on “AI assistants” before OpenClaw, it’s pretty much the endgame as I can see it. This guy just single handedly released something useful (and very insecure) before anyone else. Although that’s impressive, I don’t see more than an acquisition of the hype by OpenAI.

But... how is it even useful? Do you use it? Is it a good idea for anyone to, uh, use it? Is it a product that you or any other "vibe coder" cannot ~~build~~ tell Claude Code to build on the go, if he wants to communicate with Claude Code via WhatsApp for some reason? Sure, product doesn't need to be some sophisticated technology to be worth something, it could also just have user base because it succeeded at marketi…

> all the world has gone crazy

Reminds me of 30 years ago.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by kristofferR »

abalone wrote: post #440
TSiege wrote: post #336

There are a few take aways I think the detractors and celebrators here are missing. 1. OpenAI is saying with this statement "You could be multimillion while having AI do all the work for you." This buy out for something vibe coded and built around another open source project is meant to keep the hype going. The project is entirely open source and OpenAI could have easily done this themselves if they weren't so worrie…

I think this comment misses that OpenAI hired the guy, not the project. "This guy was able to vibe code a major thing" is exactly the reason they hired him. Like it or not, so-called vibe coding is the new norm for productive software development and probably what got their attention is that this guy is more or less in the top tier of vibe coders. And laser focused on helpful agents. The open source project, which wi…

Not only that, his output is insane, he has more active projects than I bother to count and more than 70k commits last year. He's probably one of, if not the best, vibe coding evangelist.

https://github.com/steipete

It also probably didn't hurt that he favors Codex over Claude.

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