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Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Not just government legislation, but also lawsuits. I'm confident that Discord is a hotbed of all kinds of abuse and inappropriate / adult content, a lot targeting younger generations, and most of their resources are spent on that. Age verification doesn't solve that problem per se, but it makes things a bit easier. The challenge with "protect the children" is not only evildoers targeting them, but targets actively s…

It seems to me that also if you succeed in making child-only spaces, those spaces become a magnet for adult abusers. They become an all the more desirable prize for them. Whereas spaces like this - hacker news, that is - don't need any age verification because although it's a safe bet some users are underage here too, the abusers would have to search a long time for them and the seemingly most common manipulation tec…

That's no reason to just give up. Do we give up on schools because they are attractive to paedophiles?

Children should be safe online and in school or nursery.

We should try our best to protect children online in a similar way that there are age restrictions in the real world like for alcohol and movies. It won't ever be 100% but for parents who care it helps greatly.

For abuse perpetrated by an adult on children we should strive to stop 100% of cases, but unfortunately that is not possible either.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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It seems to me that also if you succeed in making child-only spaces, those spaces become a magnet for adult abusers. They become an all the more desirable prize for them. Whereas spaces like this - hacker news, that is - don't need any age verification because although it's a safe bet some users are underage here too, the abusers would have to search a long time for them and the seemingly most common manipulation tec…

That's no reason to just give up. Do we give up on schools because they are attractive to paedophiles? Children should be safe online and in school or nursery. We should try our best to protect children online in a similar way that there are age restrictions in the real world like for alcohol and movies. It won't ever be 100% but for parents who care it helps greatly. For abuse perpetrated by an adult on children we…

I'm not saying to give up, I'm saying that "for children" spaces online can be counterproductive. Comparing to physical spaces where everyone can see your age and everyone can see what you do, makes no sense.

Open online spaces directed at children are more dangerous for children than the average open online space. Age verification doesn't help at all with that.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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just make internet 18+, solves everything. demand ID's at the time of purchase.

ICE agents will LOVE this one neat hack

purchasing alcohol must be a dream come true for them lol

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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ICE agents will LOVE this one neat hack

purchasing alcohol must be a dream come true for them lol

Weird jump between voicing your political points online and which beer you prefer, but okay.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Discord does have a problem with grooming.

I did not mean to talk about Discord specifically but all sites which will be required to do age verification. It wouldn't be hard to imagine a situation where social media sites leaning towards the government (e.g. Truth Social, X or the like) will be getting a free pass on using age verification methods which are easy to bypass while social media sites that are more critical (e.g. Reddit) will be sanctioned into im…

Yes, I think there needs to be a way to do attribute based credentials or provide as anonymous as possible authorization for citizens from the government. Somewhere between DigID and the DECODE projects ABC trials in Amsterdam.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Which hotel asks for id online..? I've only ever had to provide it once on-site and checking in. And when then, only when I'm in foreign countries.

Happens quite often with Airbnb for example. You often don't meet the host in person so there's no way to show them a physical ID.

Ahh. The not-quite-a-hotel. I don't think I ever used them.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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the solution to this seems to be to issue multiple "IDs". So essentially the government mints you a batch of like 30 "IDs" and you can use each of those once per service to verify an account (30 verified accounts per service). That allows for the use case of needing to verify multiple accounts without allowing you to verify unlimited accounts (and therefor run into the large scale misuse issue I pointed out). If you…

This is a solved problem in the authentication space. Short lived tokens backed by short lived keys. A token is generated that has a timestamp and is signed by a private key with payload. The public key is available through a public api. You throw out any token older than 30 seconds. Unlimited IDs. That's basically what you want.

Which either allows to use a fingerprint of the signing key to be used for the same.

Or would open the system up to the originally posted attack of providing ~an open relay.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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I’ll comply with a police officer because of their threat of violence. I will not comply with online bullshit, because Discord can’t shoot me.

Never underestimate the ability of a corporation to send the feds to your door.

Cold you give an example of corporation sending someone to someones door?

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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What I don't understand about this approach is if it's truly completely privacy preserving what stops me from making a service where anyone can use my ID to verify? If the site owner really learns nothing about me except for my age then they can't tell that it's the same id being used for every account. And if the government truly knows nothing about the sites I verify on they can't tell that I'm misusing the id eith…

The hole is closed with per-site pseudonyms. Your wallet generates a unique cryptographic key pair for each site so same person + same site = same pseudonym, same person + different sites = different, unlinkable pseudonyms. "The actual correct way" is an overstatement that misses jfaganel99's point. There are always tradeoffs. EUDI is no exception. It sacrifices full anonymity to prevent credential sharing so the sit…

Ok but we were talking about users on discord who have to verify their age. I was under the impression that

> it can recognize you across visits and build a behavioral profile under your pseudonym

is the default Discord experience for users with an account, long before age verification entered the chat.

Re: Discord/Twitch/Snapchat age verification bypass

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Never underestimate the ability of a corporation to send the feds to your door.

Cold you give an example of corporation sending someone to someones door?

MPAA complaint kicks off Pirate Bay raid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay_raid

RIAA tips off authorities: https://archive.is/CbZZq

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