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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by ted_bunny »

joegibbs wrote: post #469
hightrix wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To further your argument, look at the XBOX. It is impossible to tell which is the latest model by name alone. Where the playstation is simple, the latest is the 5, the previous was the 4, and the one before that was the 3.

The Xbox One. "Oh you mean the original one?" No the one that came after the 360. "The third one?" No that was the second one, the One was the third. "OK what are they on now?" The Series series. "The Series series?" Yeah the X and S. Don't confuse that with the Xbox One X or S, or the 360 S. "Right but what's the difference?" The X is better than the S because X is a bigger letter. But they run the same games, but t…

Nailed the "Who's on first?" vibe.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by sweetrabh »

The rapid adoption of AI coding agents raises important questions about trust boundaries. When an agent like Claude Code needs to handle sensitive operations - API keys, credentials, database connections - how do you prevent those secrets from ending up in the model's context or logs?

We ran into this building a password automation tool (thepassword.app). The solution: the AI orchestrates browser navigation, but actual credential values are injected locally and never enter the model's reasoning loop. Prompt injection can't exfiltrate what's not in the context.

As these tools move into enterprise settings, I expect we'll see more architectural patterns emerge for keeping sensitive data out of agentic workflows entirely.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by somat »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #472
pezezin wrote: post #439

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To be fair, only Sony follows a consistent naming convention. Nintendo's console names also defy any logic, as did Sega back in the day.

Nintendo's strategy isn't the absolute worst. They mostly just give new names to new console designs, with modifiers to specify next-gen-without-major-changes. So the SNES was a next-gen NES, the N64 was its own thing, the GameCube was its own thing, the Gameboy, Gameboy Color, and Gameboy Advanced were iterations on the same thing, DS, DSi, 3DS were all generation steps. WiiU was a next-gen Wii, Switch 2 is a next-g…

I would put the would put the wii firmly in the gamecube family line. it's a uprated gamecube with a weird controller.

    nes:snes = 6502
    n64 = mips
    gamecube:wii:wiiu = powerpc
    switch:switch2 = arm

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Macha »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #472
pezezin wrote: post #439

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, only Sony follows a consistent naming convention. Nintendo's console names also defy any logic, as did Sega back in the day.

Nintendo's strategy isn't the absolute worst. They mostly just give new names to new console designs, with modifiers to specify next-gen-without-major-changes. So the SNES was a next-gen NES, the N64 was its own thing, the GameCube was its own thing, the Gameboy, Gameboy Color, and Gameboy Advanced were iterations on the same thing, DS, DSi, 3DS were all generation steps. WiiU was a next-gen Wii, Switch 2 is a next-g…

I don’t think Nintendo’s scheme was ever that great as it blurred the difference between variant form factors (Game Boy Pocket vs Game Boy, Game Boy Micro/SP vs Game Boy Advance, DS Lite, 2/3DS XL, Wii Mini), pro models with limited exclusives (Game Boy Color, DSi, New 2/3DS), and full on new generations (Game Boy Advance, 3DS, Wii U).

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by 8note »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #295
paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

This comment is a bit confusing and surprising to me because I tried Antigravity three weeks ago and it was very undercooked. Claude was actually able to identify bugs and get the bigger picture of the project, while Gemini 3 with Antigravity often kept focusing on unimportant details. My default everyday model is still Gemimi 3 in AI Studio, even for programming related problems. But for agentic work Antigravity fel…

gemini flash in their claude code compatitor does pretty well if you give it alternative tools.

the tools its built with seem to suck, but it can cook with serena mcp.

the flash models seem to get better results than the pro ones as far as ive seen, but theres not a big difference

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by 8note »

gurrkin wrote: post #467

A lot of Claude love in here. I have used Claude on the web (free tier) well over a year ago and had good results with it, but I need good integration with IntelliJ since I work almost exclusively in Kotlin. Can anyone attest to it? The reviews on the plugin are awful, but so are the reviews for the Copilot plugin. I find Copilot pretty good in there, though the tooling is a little second-class, and it often gets "st…

use claude code, with an lsp integration for kotlin

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by another_twist »

leoedin wrote: post #199
paxys wrote: post #138

Crazy to think that Github Copilot was the first mainstream AI coding tool. It had all the hype and momentum in the world, and Microsoft decided to do...absolutely nothing with it.

I use Copilot in VSCode at work, and it's pretty effective. You can choose from quite a few models, and it has the agentic editing you'd expect from an IDE based AI development tool. I don't know if it does things like browser integration because I don't do frontend work. It's definitely improved over the last 6 months. There's also all the other Copilot branded stuff which has varying use. The web based chat is OK,…

I have found copilot to be very noisy to the point where I have had to turn it off and then uninstall on both IntelliJ and VSCode. I have found generating code via your favourite coding agent and then reviewing the output to be less taxing since the review burden is reduced. For agentic, you often have to review a bunch of code but its usually very close to the spec. Reviews are then easier.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by another_twist »

softwaredoug wrote: post #454
moregrist wrote: post #208

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I think the answer is pretty simple. It's pretty clear that Microsoft had "Everything must have Copilot" dictated from the top (or pretty close). They wanted to be all-in on AI but didn't start with any actual problems to solve. If you're an SWE or a PM or whatever and suddenly your employment/promotion/etc prospects depend on a conspicuously implemented Copilot thing, you do the best you can and implement a chat bot…

Having worked in large orgs, I can totally imagine someone having an idea like Claude Code and it getting quietly shelved because it (A) doesn’t align to some important persons vision, who is incentivized have their finger on whatever change comes about (B) might step on a lot of adjacent stakeholders, and the employees stakeholder may be risk adverse and want to play nice. (C) higher up stakeholder fundamentally don…

I have to deal with C) at $BiGTech where multiple ML teams reported to someone who never worked with ML. For machine learning, it is especially problematic since even being a good engineer requires you to understand the algorithms on some fundamental level. Now thats hard if you have never done anything remotely ML in life.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by DowsingSpoon »

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #106
vv_ wrote: post #66

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On what reasoning do you make this prediction? Just because corporations are mandating their employees to use AI right now does not mean it will continue.

Any new software developers entering the field from this point on will have to know how to use and be expected to use AI code-gen tools to get employment. Moving forward, eventually all developers use these tools routinely. There will be a point in the future where there is no one left working that has ever coded anything complex thing from scratch without AI tools. Therefore, all* code will have AI code-gen as all*…

This is why, of course, nearly all open source projects are written in Java.
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