What happens if the creators load the video first with a different title and different contextual information, then if the video gets loaded, they change the title and the content afterwards?
TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
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Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
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You must have heard about it from somewhere ? Some reliable third party intermediary that is neither US nor China?
I haven’t heard anything about this but the claim appears to be mostly true - https://spectator.com/article/has-xi-jinping-fought-off-anot... The spectator is allegedly a reliable media source, I am not personally familiar.
"According to unconfirmed reports...."
The question isn't whether to trust The Spectator, it's whether to trust this unconfirmed, unnamed source.
Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
#483Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because this exact conspiracy has been going on since the elections for 2020. And it's well known and documented. Are you essentially asking me why I wouldn't encouFrage a conspiracy theory based on the anecdote of someone who says they hardly use the platform they are suggesting is forcing propaganda/censorship on them? There are polarizing events getting more coverage right now, by far, than anything else in the US…
> There are polarizing events getting more coverage right now, by far, than anything else in the USA, and HN user infecto is subscribing to the idea that the algorithm isn't going to try to check if these important ongoing events interest them. No conspiracy theory here. Long time user of TikTok. The sometimes part is that I am not hooked on it but I do use its regularly. I started using it after being a user on Douy…
> sometimes use tiktok
> use it regularly
That's not how these words work. A reasonable person wouldn't think these phrases are interchangeable when taking about something addictive -- in this case TicTok. Someone who "smokes sometimes" and someone who "smokes regularly" are very different groups. This isn't an attack; I understand you now, I'm just trying to get you to see where I was coming from.
> Like I already said I ... that I never experienced before.
You had not said that yet, you just said I said you were wrong.
> this was entirely different and coincided in time with the complaints of censorship.
If you think this statement isn't reasonably interpreted as you implying and leaning in to, or in the very least encouraging, this conspiracy theory, then I think you are being disingenuous.
I was trying to provide helpful information by giving someone who only "sometimes" uses tiktok some assurance that these changes are typical.
Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
#484Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then the GP statement is still correct. "The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to."
> Then the GP statement is still correct. In the most point-missing, technical kind of way.
No? The point is that the US government made this deal with Tiktok so the US can censor stuff the US government doesn't like.
Saying "But China also censors!" is the one missing the point.
Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
#485Earlier quoted context omitted.
It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…
Does China go around the world invading countries in the name of freedom? > Content about the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles, killing people in Venezuela with bombs, and threatening Greenland, straight to top of feed. None of this is propaganda, it's just facts.
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Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
#486Earlier quoted context omitted.
It isn't so much as the rest of the world having easy access. It is what the Chinese want the rest of the world to see. If you are in a South American country using a residential IP in new incognito session, doom scroll, after the initial disturbing content, you will start to notice videos of the United States government physically attacking people born in the country of the residential IP address. The TikTok algorit…
> Content about the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles, killing people in Venezuela with bombs, and threatening Greenland, straight to top of feed. Aren't these recent events? A better example would be showing US atrocities from the last 50 years, but not Chinese. Or hiding the suffering of Ukranian and Iranian peoples.
I'm in South America.
If I doom scroll TikTok without cookies from a residence in South America, after a while, I will be presented with anti American propaganda showing videos of recent events or people speaking in Spanish about the atrocities that the United States is committing against Spanish speaking people that is recent.
I'm am describing objectively what I see.
The United States didn't want TikTok controlling what is visible to people in the United States so they banned TikTok. Later the United States offered allowing it to be sold to an American company.
Currently, there are two extremely influential forces for people under 25 years old in Spanish speaking Latin America, TikTok, a Chinese company, and an American music artist, Bad Bunny, who likely is the single most influential person in the Spanish speaking world. Let's stay tuned for the Superbowl.
Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
#487Earlier quoted context omitted.
A NYT columnist Jamelle Bouie suggested (in jest) that the next Democrat administration send armed IRS agents to gated communities in Florida, to "investigate tax fraud". But this is exactly why all citizens should be concerned about the infringement of rights happening in Minnesota. If it is allowed without prosecution, you are next.
Right, if a future democratic president starts sending masked government thugs out to assault and kidnap American citizens we all know that 100% of the people who are defending the current ICE atrocities will suddenly be outraged about government tyranny.
a surprising amount of people seem to genuinely believe law enforcement (generally, not just police) is at its core based on discretionary actions guided by their moral values and not a morally neutral action upholding agreed upon contracts
that is to say, the law only applies to you if you do "bad" things. and ill be honest, there is a level of truth to this to me. from a practical standpoint, it is infeasible to formally understand every nuance of every law ever created just to be a citizen. The underlying core social contract does appear to be one of "if you do 'good' things, generally the law will agree with you and if it doesnt then we wont hold it against you the first time"
*the important caveat here is that this leaves a rather disgustingly large and exploitable gap in what is considered good vs bad behavior, with some people having biases that can spin any observable facts into good or bad based on their political agenda. Additionally, personal biases like racism for example, influence this judgement to value judge your actions in superficial ways
Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
#488Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which used to be seen as "Ew, China has their own version? Crazy censorship" but after some time it seems like the US is aiming for the very same thing. Classy.
> Which used to be seen as "Ew, China has their own version? Crazy censorship" It used to be marketed as that by "China evil" people. Western politicians have always seen this as an arms race. They claim infinite brutal censorship and suppression in China in order to claim that not having it here is a strategic disadvantage. Meanwhile, China's "social credit" is just like a US credit score, which in most countries is…
> This is completely bipartisan, both US parties take turns shitting on their two greatest enemies: the Bill of Rights
Ignoring the magnitude to draw a false equivalence is a great way to discredit your position. Neither party is perfect but only one of them is denying the full personhood of over half the population, having armed men threaten the public with lethal violence over constitutionally-protected activities, or saying that the executive should be able to direct private industries for profit. Debates about things like how much the government should ask private companies to enforce their terms of service are valid but it’s like arguing over a hangnail while you’re having a heart attack.
Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
#489How is TikTok able to screen this en masse? Are they going after tags? Political issues aside, I am really interested in the technical background in this.
The only thing I could come up with, assuming this isn’t a technical glitch, is that TikTok already had the infra to silence anything they want on the platform and as soon as the keys were handed over they turned that filter up to 100%
How would you distinguish this from the case where they turned the 'magnify dissent' filter down from 200%?
Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues
#490Earlier quoted context omitted.
Purely semantic arguments aren't helpful to anyone. The word "bias" clearly has two senses in this context. The original term from signal processing indicates a persistent offset, which got appropriated in politics to reflect the idea of a "lean" in coverage. So now "Bias" means "politically charged in some direction or another". So you can have a "biased" term ("occupy") next to another biased term ("tea party") in…
Your comment is longer nonsense. Individual data points in a population cannot be biased. Bias is an aggregate statistic of the sample population.
> Your comment is longer nonsense.
Sigh, here we go.
> Individual data points in a population cannot be biased.
Indeed they[1] cannot! By the first definition I listed.
Conversely, the term "tea party" is a "biased" political term by the second, as it connotes a particular political perspective.
I didn't make this stuff up, check definition 1a in M-W: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias#h1
[1] The discussion is about search terms, btw. Not "data points", which sort of confounds your analysis.