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American importers and consumers bear the cost of 2025 tariffs: analysis

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Post by tsss »

spacedcowboy wrote: post #386
sciencejerk wrote: post #254

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Thank you for offering an additional perspective. The article reads like the tariffs were a complete and total failure. You are saying it is too soon to tell, correct?

This take depends on the munificence of the local retailers deciding all on their own (because there's no external pressure apart from other retailers in the same position) to lower the price of their goods (and therefore reduce their profit) once the tariffs have forced the foreign goods off the market. I don't believe it for a second. Here's something that has happened before though. During the American War of Trea…

Tariffs/subsidies should be weaned off over time. Their success absolutely does not depend on "local retailers [why are you even talking about retailers when it is all about manufacturers?] deciding all on their own to lower their prices". The external competitors are still there and will just come back when tariffs are lowered, so domestic manufacturers are forced to become cost competitive.

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Post by cheschire »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #464
cheschire wrote: post #413

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It's so exhausting having the same conversation every time. A friend reads something on reddit, flips out about it. Asks in our signal chat "can anyone explain this" as bait. Occasionally I take the bait and explain the extreme thing through a centrist lens. Now I'm instantly on the side of whoever did the bad thing and spend the next 90 minutes explaining rationality until we arrive at the center. Things calm down.…

You have a funny idea of what friend means.

Please don't reduce decades of friendship with a person to a couple dozen words I posted on a website and think you can judge what friendship means to me.

I was talking about the impact of the current state of the world on existing relationships.

Stop contributing to the problem.

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Post by bartread »

benj111 wrote: post #316
bartread wrote: post #174

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> I'm also somewhat concerned about your new found lust for Lebensraum I beg your pardon?!? Who the hell do you think you're talking to? Read my comment again.

Are you not from the US? I wasn't accusing you personally of supporting your governments actions, but I think you as in your country is acceptable terminology.

No. I literally said in my original comment that I'm not from the US.

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Post by lostlogin »

aj7 wrote: post #422
jkaplowitz wrote: post #343

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The kind of older tourist visiting a foreign religious site is definitely going to be relatively indoctrinated regardless of their origin country. But yes, many Americans are indoctrinated. They also tend to be dominant in wide swaths of US geography and highly motivated by their indoctrinators to vote, thus maximizing their electoral impact. Many other Americans are pretty open-minded to new facts, even today. Unfor…

In Israel, virtually every Christian relic is fake. Some are hundreds of years old, but nevertheless fake. This is not a comment on Christianity as a religion. Religions need relics, and if they can’t find them, they are created. This is operating in modern times. I was working as a contractor for Intel Israel. They took everybody on a day trip. To an LDS temple to “see the organ” (what else?). An American LDS church…

> In Israel, virtually every Christian relic is fake.

The Italian Catholics have got a handle on this with many of their relics.

Bits of various saints are in glass boxes all over Italy. Presumably they could be DNA tested?

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Post by quesera »

cratermoon wrote: post #195

Side note: US Americans still strikes me as a weird Europeanism, even though it's accurate. Only people living in the US think the work American refers only to them and their fellow countrymen.

FWIW, every non-US American I've ever known or worked with (from Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Colombia, Belize, Guatemala, Mexico, Canada) has been more amused than bothered when I've asked how they feel about US Americans calling themselves "American", and excluding non-US Americans.

Non-US Americans don't seem to care, and they think it's silly that I'd wonder whether they did.

It still feels dismissive and rude, so I try to avoid it -- but evidently it's not a significant or widespread concern among those with standing to be offended.

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Post by NetMageSCW »

nathan_compton wrote: post #167
BanAntiVaxxers wrote: post #121

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I don't buy this - Harris had a big bump in the polls as soon as she entered the race and I think she could have won if she had offered voters anything . This bullshit that American's won't vote for a woman is just an excuse not to run women and to deflect blame towards a culture war issue and away from the fact that the democrats don't actually have popular policies. I voted for Harris, I even canvased for her, but…

The Democrats ran a campaign that managed to lose to a liar and a felon. They couldn’t have been more out of touch if they had immigrated from Antarctica.

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Post by giardini »

3D30497420 wrote: post #351
giardini wrote: post #251

BFD. The reason for tariffs is NOT to reduce prices but to bring production (jobs, capacity) home. (Don't take some British newspapers' word for it - most of them are extremely anti-Trump - and they're really, really good at tabloid journalism. Our economy remains robust (down jackets moving like mad in Minneapolis) and the number of native-born Americans and legal aliens working is higher than ever. Illegal aliens a…

A few notes: > The reason for tariffs is NOT to reduce prices but to bring production (jobs, capacity) home. Tariffs can be used for many purposes. I would say this is administration is clearly not using them to bring jobs home. Earlier tariffs were lowered/dropped when trade deals were signed, and the current ones are clearly a way to strong arm Europe to giving up its territory. > Unemployment rate has decreased to…

"Decreased from where...? "

"Flash Report: U.S. Jobless Rate Ticked Down in December"

https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2026/jan/flash-rep...

FTFA:

"The unemployment rate in the U.S. has decreased to 4.4% in December 2025, down from 4.5% in November. This decline follows a period of rising rates, with the economy adding just 50,000 jobs in December, indicating a slowdown in job growth. The labor market is showing signs of stabilization, with the broader U-6 unemployment rate easing to 8.4%."

Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis

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Post by irishcoffee »

Muromec wrote: post #299
oulipo2 wrote: post #248

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I think that's wrong. The Democrat platform offered a lot. It's just that if in front of you, you have a weirdo who gives some stupid "with me, everything is free, and there's no problem" line, that is provable completely bullshit, but that your population is too uneducated (or too in a cult) to understand, then this happens... What did you want Democrat to do? Give the same lies that GOP does? then what's the endgam…

But... Mamdani offered free childcare and affordable housing and won. It's not that far from feee everything.

Mamdani might be the reason the next mayor of NYC is trump 2.0...

I hope I'm wrong.

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Post by mrtksn »

gostsamo wrote: post #372
mrtksn wrote: post #147

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Why someone needs to consume the stuff produced?

For the unfortunate necessity to pay the producer and for the consumer to get the benefit of the produce whether tangible or perceived.

See the core issue is that you get US dollars in exchange, which is of infinite supply but still happens to have value due to the reserve currency status. You send your stuff to US, you get the dollars and pay your suppliers etc but they don’t send that dollar to US to get something they want because US doesn’t actually produce that many stuff. So you should be able to augment the US, pay the producers with your imaginary dollars you put in the books for example. Sure that will be fraud but it is fraud only because you are not US. However that’s not the point, the point is that you don’t actually need US, you need to figure out a financial instrument that fulfills the role of US and that must be possible.

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Post by jonathanstrange »

nozzlegear wrote: post #177
dominicrose wrote: post #149

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I'm not American but tariffs might be a way to "make America great again" because it makes it harder to trade with other countries. This means that it makes it relatively easier than before, to trade within the USA. Another effect is that it serves as a tax. Easy for me to say but I think Americans aren't taxed enough.

Globalism evokes scary thoughts for a lot of people, but globalism is what made America great. Nobody wins when protectionists come to power.

What I find so astonishing about this recent US "debate" is that I was taught in my German high school during the 1980s in a discipline called "Erdkunde" that the US is transitioning from a manufacturing to a service-oriented economy that would be vastly superior to the classical manufacturing-based approach and that Germany would need to make this transition, too, if we wanted to remain globally competitive.

I don't want to glorify German high schools but I find it hard to believe that those school books were so wrong that 40 years later it would make sense to return to a manufacturing-oriented economy.

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