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Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by thisislife2 »

mcny wrote: post #408
ohyoutravel wrote: post #393

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Fantastic reference. I remember pirating this from microcrap.com in about 1996.

> 1996 I'm chuckling at the idea of pirating software in 1996. iirc even in 1999, I couldn't figure out why Windows update required me to use internet exploder. It would take forever to download updates over dialup.

Don't remember if it was the 90's, but we got trial versions of Photoshop on some magazine CD and it was then all about searching for cracks / patches to it. These were quite small and bearable to download on dialups. And of course, even otherwise, dialups really taught all of us patience ... our generation thus knows the value of delayed gratification :).

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by cush »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #463
cush wrote: post #448

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I mean, maybe if the headline was “For no particular reason whatsoever, under absolutely no pressure from their millions of customers to deliver on the promises they paid for nearly two years ago, Apple picks Gemini to Power Siri” Or maybe you’re arguing that Apple never did intend to commit to those promises and it was all intentional and part of a well orchestrated plan from the outset? Seems like an odd strategy

> if the headline was “For no particular reason whatsoever, under absolutely no pressure from their millions of customers to deliver on the promises they paid for nearly two years ago, Apple picks Gemini to Power Siri” Which is not how headlines work. You may have an argument that Apple is under pressure. But your headline argument is bananas. > maybe you’re arguing that Apple never did intend to commit to those prom…

> Which is not how headlines work

That’s the joke. I assure you they are panicking.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by Jean-Papoulos »

slwvx wrote: post #337
ipaddr wrote: post #278

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"pace at which the models are getting smart is accelerating". The pace is decelerating.

My impression is that solar (and maybe wind?) energy have benefited from learning-by-doing [1][2] that has resulted in lower costs and/or improved performance each year. It seems reasonable to me that a similar process will apply to AI (at least in the long run). The rate of learning could be seen as a "pace" of improvement. I'm curious, do you have a reference for the deceleration of pace that you refer to? [1] http…

Why would a the curve of solar prices be in any way correlated with the curve of AI improvements ?

The deceleration of pace is visible to anyone capable of using Google.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by aixpert »

jmacd wrote: post #89

This is one of those announcements that actually just excites me as a consumer. We give our children HomePods as their first device when they turn 8 years old (Apple Watch at 10 years, laptop at 12) and in the 6 years I have been buying them, they have not improved one ounce. My kids would like to listen to podcasts, get information, etc. All stuff that a voice conversation with Chatgpt or Gemini can do today, but Si…

it's not going to help them. For Siri to be really useful it wouldn't need deep system integration and an external model is not going to provide that. People don't believe me when I said it about Apple Intelligence with open AI

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Post by Jean-Papoulos »

sandytoast wrote: post #439
mschuster91 wrote: post #385

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In the current US environment, no one can survive going against Trump, and as recently evidenced, this is meant literally. The US, for all intents and purposes, is now a kleptocracy. Rule of law, freedom of speech, even court orders, all of that doesn't matter any more in practice. There will always be some way for the federal government to strong-arm anyone into submission.

Not with that attitude they can’t. Let’s see what happens to the first person to call his bull shit. If jpow folds or is actually indicted, you may be right. Let’s see what happens with Exxon though i think they’re gonna bend the knee.

Why would you not bend the key ? There's a reasonnable chance Trump is gone in less than 3 years and MAGA tears itself apart. Better bet on that than try to make a stand now and lose everything.

Re: Apple picks Gemini to power Siri

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Post by fnky »

throwaway314155 wrote: post #464
runjake wrote: post #280

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Direct quote from Google themselves: "Apple Intelligence will continue to run on Apple devices and Private Cloud Compute , while maintaining Apple's industry-leading privacy standards."

This clarifies nothing?

Direct quote from their joint statement: "Apple and Google have entered into a multi-year collaboration under which the next generation of Apple Foundation Models will be based on Google's Gemini models and cloud technology. These models will help power future Apple Intelligence features, including a more personalized Siri coming this year."

Source: https://blog.google/company-news/inside-google/company-annou...

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Post by cush »

rdn wrote: post #478
andy_ppp wrote: post #431

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I should be able to completely control my phone with voice and ask it to do anything it is capable of and it should just work: "Hi Siri, can you message Katrina on WhatsApp that Judy is staying 11-15th Feb and add it to the shared Calendar, confirm with me the message to Kat and the Calendar start and end times and message."

They will never do this, and the lack of it can be marketed as a security feature.

Well that’s what they sold people in June 2024

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Post by hnlmorg »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #440
cush wrote: post #434

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> There isn't currently a forcing function Sorry but if there wasn’t a forcing function then “Apple Picks Gemini to Power Siri” wouldn’t be the headline

> if there wasn’t a forcing function then “Apple Picks Gemini to Power Siri” wouldn’t be the headline A pair four-trillion dollar companies striking a deal in the hottest technology space since the internet getting headline treatment is not evidence of a forcing function.

Them having bolted on ChatGPT in the ugly way they did is evidence though.

Their naff image generation tool (Playground) is further evidence.

Apple are definitely panicking. And they should be too.

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Post by Agingcoder »

chankstein38 wrote: post #275
eastbound wrote: post #245

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Ollama! Why didn’t they just run Ollama and a public model! They’ve kept the last 10 years with a Siri who doesn’t know any contact named Chronometer only to require the best in class LLM?

The other day I was trying to navigate to a Costco in my car. So I opened google maps on Android Auto on the screen in my car and pressed the search box. My car won't allow me to type even while parked... so I have to speak to the Google Voice Assistant. I was in the map search, so I just said "Costco" and it said "I can't help with that right now, please try again later" or something of the sort. I tried a couple mo…

Same issue with apple car. ‘ hey Siri, please play ‘call your girlfriend’ on Spotify by (artist)’

‘Sorry I don’t know anyone called ‘your girlfriend’’ The kids find it hilarious

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