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Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by tensor »

poemxo wrote: post #424
sdo72 wrote: post #324

I don't think it's even about low carb vs. high protein to begin with. Many countries and regions in the world are fine with a high-carb diet, and people there live long, healthy lives. Americans eat so much processed food simply because it is much cheaper than fresh food. Processed food is made to get consumers addicted (through convenience, taste, etc.) and encourage them to consume much more. Fresh food is almost…

The messaging on the website pretty much agrees with you, then.

Except for the incredibly wrong and bad advice that Americans, who already eat too much meat, should eat even more meat, sure.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by Fischgericht »

What I am missing in this pyramid are brain worms. Brain worms are real food! Don't fall for the ultra-processed glue sniffing practice all scientists wrongly had been recommending you. Have a proudly american-made brain worm instead.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by [deleted] »

clydethefrog wrote: post #272
Anonyneko wrote: post #18

I just refer to the official Finnish nutrition guidelines, they seem pretty reasonable. https://www.ruokavirasto.fi/en/foodstuffs/healthy-diet/nutri...

I liked the Canada food guide. https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/ Discussion in 2019: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18985017

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Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by zamalek »

oulipo2 wrote: post #217
zeroonetwothree wrote: post #191

For all the lunacy of RFK this somehow is actually a really good set of guidelines? Certainly better than the previous version. I didn't expect that to be honest.

Well, it's... what we've been told to do (at least in the rest of the world) for more than a century? Packaged as some "app-like" / "tech-like" website? Pathetic

If the old wisdom is correct then there is no issue in regurgitating it in a format suitable for a modern audience. We departed from it for a very long time, especially in regards to fat and processed foods. America has been been on a sharp decline in diet-related health.

The deeper problem is that you can feed a family with a few bucks at a fast food joint. Eating correctly costs money, money that Americans don't have.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by woodruffw »

watwut wrote: post #282
woodruffw wrote: post #236

Of note: the US's per capita consumption of meat has increased by more than 100 pounds over the last century[1]. We now consume an immense amount of meat per person in this country. That increase is disproportionately in poultry, but we also consume more beef[2]. A demand for the average American to eat more meat would have to explain, as a baseline, why our already positive trend in meat consumption isn't yielding p…

USA is actually healthier then in 1909. Life expectancy was going up the whole time. A whole bunch of malnutritiom related issues and diseases just disappeared. You need to go to much more recent times to get worsening results/predictions.

I wasn't making a claim about the US being either healthier or unhealthier as a whole; I was only observing that annual per capita meat consumption does not trivially track with the benefits claimed on the site. It might, but the evidence is not presented.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by [deleted] »

watwut wrote: post #282
woodruffw wrote: post #236

Of note: the US's per capita consumption of meat has increased by more than 100 pounds over the last century[1]. We now consume an immense amount of meat per person in this country. That increase is disproportionately in poultry, but we also consume more beef[2]. A demand for the average American to eat more meat would have to explain, as a baseline, why our already positive trend in meat consumption isn't yielding p…

USA is actually healthier then in 1909. Life expectancy was going up the whole time. A whole bunch of malnutritiom related issues and diseases just disappeared. You need to go to much more recent times to get worsening results/predictions.

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Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by nelsondev »

bluerooibos wrote: post #339
overgard wrote: post #25

I'm pleasantly surprised, this is actually really good. The reason I'm surprised is because of how corrupt the creation of the previous food pyramid was (the sugar industry likely paid to downplay the danger of sugar[1]) I find when it comes to health advice, generally government sources can't be trusted because there's too much special interests and money involved. You really have to do your own research. [1] https:…

It's a nice website, sure. But what is this administration actually doing to change American diets? It's going to take a little more than throwing up a marketing landing page with a well produced video and nice photos.

This guidance will be taken in by government agencies that set rules, by schools choosing kids lunches , etc .

Not all government action is in the form of a specific law with specific enforcement mechanism.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by theLegionWithin »

bruceb wrote: post #37
schmuckonwheels wrote: post #30

Speaking from personal experience, this is consistent with multiple doctors over the years recommending high-protein, low carb diets. (Clarification: low does not mean no carb.) I don't understand people freaking out over this - outside of a purely political reflex - hell hath no fury like taking away nerds' Mountain Dew and Flamin' Hot Cheetos. Nor do I understand the negative reactions to new restrictions on SNAP -…

Pure partisan spite. The gov't not spending money on candy and sugary drinks is good. Just like when Michelle Obama pushed for better school lunches.

Lol I forgot about that. What was it? Pizza is a vegetable?

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by ropable »

On the face of it, this initiative seems like solid nutritional advice. On the other hand, I'm a little dismayed to see animal protein sources given equal billing to vegetable and fruit on their new pyramid, and whole grains placed right at the bottom (below butter!) It's my understanding that people in the developed world already over-consume animal proteins to a large degree.

On the other hand: it's not like anyone ever followed the old food pyramid either. I'm now over here waiting with baited breath for the US federal govt to introduce some kind of regulation around the amount of additional sugar, salt and fats in processed food sold in the US (which makes up a large proportion of what people are eating right now).

The food landscape is complex and multi-factorial. I hope that they follow up with other initiatives to improve nutrition at a population level, like regulation and nutrition programs.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Post by lanfeust6 »

We can do away with "pyramids". Canada's food guide for instance is pretty good https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/. Aside from lots of veg, you can balance the rest.

The Americanised diet had a heavy emphasis on refined carbs, added sugar, added fat, and no fibre. Thats a far cry from whole grains and pulses, which have been researched extensively and are thought to be healthy.

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