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Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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I think people are overindexed on the US's failures to turn Islamic theocracies into democracies. The people in Venezuela want democracy. It's a fundamentally different situation.

Determining the goodness of a blatantly illegal action by its ultimate success is a very Machiavellian view. Why have laws if all that matters is the final result?

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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> Nicolás Maduro has been charged with narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine guns and destructive devices against the United States.

I'm sorry but "possession of machine guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to possess machine guns and destructive devices against the United States."

When did this happen exactly ??

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/jan/03/caracas-e...

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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I suggest reading the few south american comments in this thread hidden by the usual whatever Trump does vitriol fro EU/US commenters.

r/venezuela is one placce to start. Very different tone there than the ill informed commenters here ( and I say that with detest for “that other site”)

Hopefully the Venezuelan people will have a fighting change to restore their country now.

Time will tell I suppose.

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Here's a trick I've learnt to get an authentic view of events like these, a nice way to parse through the keyboard warrior and ivory tower voices and noise is to hear what Venezuelans, the millions of Venezuelan migrants, and the citizens of neighboring countries who've had to reckon with the legacy of Chavez think about this. You can extend this to anything really with good results. No valuable insight will be glean…

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Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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It's funny how many people already see this as a book that is opened and closed on the same day. That's not how these things work. This is like the first stone of an avalanche. It could stop here, or it could roll on for quite a while. It will take months or even years to know whether or not the outcome here was desirable or not and what the final tally is. Remember the 'Arab spring' and what came after.

Or... nothing will change at all. See the Fordow strike: attack another country, pull out unexpectedly, and pretend nothing ever happened.

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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This is just sad. We have a long history and lots of data to know this will be catastrophic for the Venezuela. Hope it doesn’t go that way but feels inevitable. The us is never expected to learn from its mistakes so nothing new there, with the administration desperate to distract from the Epstein files has decided war is the way.
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