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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by firefax »

coppsilgold wrote: post #309
firefax wrote: post #195

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>I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. What's stopping someone from sticking a microphone next to their speaker? Slow, but effective.

Even if you plug the audio output into the input you would still be taking a quality loss by passing the audio through a DAC and then an ADC. Maybe if the quality of your hardware is good enough it wouldn't matter, but then you would be limited to only ripping 24 hours of audio per day...

They recently started offering lossless, could you get down to the equivalent of 320kbps?

I grew up on sites like Suprnova, and quickly found I could not discern the difference between 320 mp3s and lossless.

Even now, I only seem to notice if I use a very high end pair of headphones, and mostly with electronic music that has a lot of soft parts with sounds that are in the low or high end of the spectrum.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by rasmus-kirk »

willio58 wrote: post #166
yegle wrote: post #34

Not that we should, but it's technically feasible to have a music streaming server with the torrent as the backend, and selectively download the part of the torrent in respond to on-demand streaming request from the client.

I recently got into the whole homelab *arr stack for things like movies and tv and while I know options exist for music I just don’t see the need yet price-wise. Spotify is still just cheap enough for me to not care enough. We’ll see how long this holds. That being said it’s no secret Spotify and other streaming services barely pay even popular artists. Artists make money from live shows and merch. The fact that thei…

I'd rather download music and buy LP's, especially from smaller artists, than having a Spotify subscription. They get a much bigger cut and I get something tangible, if unpractical. The only ironic part is that a lot of small artists only print an extremely limited number of LP's, I don't understand why they don't let people purchase their stuff? Like maybe it's for the "limited feeling", but that just feels dumb as fuck.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by Philpax »

romanovcode wrote: post #470

`spotdl download " https://open.spotify.com/user/{username} " --user-auth --output '{list-name}/{title} - {artists}.{output-ext}'` This is literally all you need to back up Spotify.

spotdl downloads from YouTube, not Spotify, afaik

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by Philpax »

squigz wrote: post #421
reassess_blind wrote: post #405

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Same model and same prompt won’t necessarily create the same result, unless I misunderstand how these audio models work.

It's possible to generate the same images and text from LMs by tweaking the settings, right? Are audio models different?

Yes and no - yes, in theory, but in practice, non-determinism can be introduced at different points along the stack. See Thinking Machines' post on LLM non-determinism: https://thinkingmachines.ai/blog/defeating-nondeterminism-in...

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by lurk2 »

0x3f wrote: post #423
lurk2 wrote: post #365

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> that to evade such insanity is wrong in some way. There’s a commons problem at play here. Most habitual pirates couldn’t pay for what they are pirating even if they wanted to, so restricting their access just makes the world worse-off; but who is going to finance the creation of new content if everything is just reliant on completely optional donations? The 100 year period is absurd and does nothing to incentivize…

> Most habitual pirates couldn’t pay for what they are pirating Seems questionable. You can cover almost everything with a handful of monthly subscriptions these days. In fact I often pirate things that I otherwise have access to via e.g. Amazon Prime. > but who is going to finance the creation of new content if everything is just reliant on completely optional donations? Well this is an appeal to consequences, right…

> You can cover almost everything with a handful of monthly subscriptions these days.

The majority of people on earth cannot afford more than two or three of these subscriptions.

> But then who would be making the knock-offs and what would be motivating them?

Ten years ago there was a popular blog that got posted on /r/anarcho_capitalism with some frequency. IP was a contentious topic among the then-technologically literate userbase. At some point, a spammer began copying articles from the blog and posting them to /r/anarcho_capitalism himself. This caught the attention of some users and the spammer was eventually banned. A few days later, I followed a link back to his site and found all the articles he had stolen now linked back to a page featuring the cease and desist letter he had received from the original blog, the URL being something like: “f*-statists-and-such-and-such.”

Without any* copyright law, any content that is generated effectively gets arbitraged out to the most efficient hosts and promoters. This might be a win for readers in the short term, but long-term tends towards commodification that simply won’t sustain specialized subject matter in the absence of a patronage model. YouTube and the wave of Short Form Video Content are the two most obvious case studies, though it happens on every social platform that moves faster than infringement notices can be sent.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by cedws »

tandr wrote: post #317
cedws wrote: post #277

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I just started DJing and something I quickly noticed is how garbage Spotify's music sounds compared to FLACs I've purchased. The max bitrate is very low.

Spotify just (last week or 2 weeks ago) introduced lossless compression (FLAC) and it sounds amazing.

Wow didn't know about that, thanks.
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