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BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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Post by dotancohen »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #479
dotancohen wrote: post #356

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Is it using that Nissan/Renault CVT? That transmission is notorious junk. I must say that I've been impressed with Dacia. Even the build quality is excellent - on par or beating VW. I've driven on Romanian roads so I can see why they would prioritize such high build quality.

You can get them with a manual transmission, or a dual-clutch automatic, or CVT. AFAIK, the manuals are all decent, although the 6 speed manual on the 4WD models has quite low ratios (no transfer case) so it doesn't have great fuel economy at highway speeds.

Makes sense. In their home market, Romania, highway speed hardly ever exceeds 90 kph.

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Post by organsnyder »

mpbart wrote: post #471
organsnyder wrote: post #463

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I have a 2009 Civic that has no noticeable body rust, despite being in Michigan. Two times I've had to get minor body work done (not rust-related), the bodyshop owner commented that he never sees them this clean anymore. I chalk it up to being diligent with car washes, especially in the winter. Purists will cringe at this, but I'm fine with sacrificing some surface appearance (the paint doesn't look too bad, consider…

Which part of Michigan are you in? I know some people that live up in northern Michigan where they don't bother salting the roads in the winter and just put down sand instead which I would imagine contributes to better longevity

I'm in Grand Rapids. We use tons of salt here.

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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Post by Beijinger »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #474
Beijinger wrote: post #440

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Why?

You'll most likely be overpaying for overall package, not get the advanced software and will be forced to pay insane yearly service fee. Then there's whole long term thing - very little spare parts availability cuz most EVs are niche models, some already ceased to exist, service tools not available or insanely overpriced. Some like Kia/Hyundai are notoriously unreliable to begin with.

BYD?

Hyundai unreliable?

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Post by tw04 »

josephh wrote: post #155
tw04 wrote: post #146

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> The moment you have any issue at all with it, the car will be considered totaled. Huh? The taycan has an 8-year/100k mile battery warranty. How many 100k+ mile carreras do you see for sale on eBay?

The warranty isn't going to cover underside damages caused by going over a shallow bump

No, your insurance is going to cover damages caused by hitting road debris whether you’re driving an EV or an ICE vehicle.

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Post by bombcar »

SoftTalker wrote: post #402
justin66 wrote: post #393

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I watch "The Car Care Nut" sometimes, as I've got a Toyota. Nothing I've ever seen there would lead me to put Toyota into the same maintenance cost/difficulty category as BMW or Mercedes. Consumer Reports puts them at almost opposite ends of the spectrum, as well. https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-maintenance/the-cos...

I've owned a few Mercedes and didn't find them really more difficult to work on than other cars of similar age I've owned. I haven't owned any that are really new, so that may have changed. I haven't owned any BMWs but their reputation for being difficult to work on and overengineered goes back decades.

There was an era where Mercedes were insanely easy to work on, with the detail you’d expect from unleashed German engineers.

I didn’t know the 123 hood folded all the way back until near the end of having one!

https://www.classiccarstodayonline.com/2022/04/22/mercedes-1...

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Post by tw04 »

nicholassmith wrote: post #204
tw04 wrote: post #146

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> The moment you have any issue at all with it, the car will be considered totaled. Huh? The taycan has an 8-year/100k mile battery warranty. How many 100k+ mile carreras do you see for sale on eBay?

Quite a few actually, regular 911s often end up being daily drivers and given Porsche build them to last there's plenty of high milers out there.

There are currently 17 total carreras for sale with over 100k miles, none of them are less than 8 years old. The average taycan buyer isn’t going to own the car long enough to exceed the warranty.

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Post by LoganDark »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #475
BobaFloutist wrote: post #410

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I don't think it's a coincidence that an enormous number of rideshare/delivery drivers drive priuses though. Reliable, not too expensive, low maintenance, and high mpg is kind of exactly what you'd expect them to look for.

Not enough people know how cool the Prius hybrid system is. One would think having EV + gas would add complexity, but it actually allows them to delete a lot of parts. There is no clutch, no belts, no starter, there's practically nothing that can break. Not knowing how the regen affects braking I brought my Prius in for 80k service and asked for new brake pads and mechanic asked me why I want to replace them, they lo…

Isn't there even less in a proper BEV? You lose the benefit of being able to pay the gas tax though.

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Post by tw04 »

cromka wrote: post #160
tw04 wrote: post #146

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> The moment you have any issue at all with it, the car will be considered totaled. Huh? The taycan has an 8-year/100k mile battery warranty. How many 100k+ mile carreras do you see for sale on eBay?

Carrera is not Taycan. Why would you equate both? Different cars with different targets.

> Different cars with different targets.

The head of the product disagrees with you. No offense but I think he has a slightly better idea of their target buyer than you.

>AW: How much was Tesla on Porsche’s mind when the Taycan was produced? It seems like you’re going right after Model S with this car.

>SW: The first target for ourselves was to make sure that the Taycan becomes a Porsche. We needed to make it as close to the 911, our icon, as possible. Obviously, we had a look at the competition, we had a look at BMW, Mercedes, Tesla.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/people/a2157176/talking-taycan...

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Post by l1tany11 »

bdangubic wrote: post #428
l1tany11 wrote: post #70

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2025 S is the same as your 2014 S? That’s some hilarious cope. Stop lying. You know it’s completely different. Yes, a model S is still a model S. And the F150 is still a pickup truck. Surprise!

2025: https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2025/ 2014: https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2014/ If this was like “find 5 differences game” you’d lose :-)

Are you serious?

New motors, new battery pack architecture, chemistry, etc, new body structure (giga castings), new interior, new facia and body panels, new computer architecture, new door handles. It goes on and on and on. Find me a part on your 2014 that is the same on the 2025. Show it to me in the Tesla parts catalog. It’s online. Should be easy.

Get a grip.

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Post by themafia »

Maxion wrote: post #149
CraigJPerry wrote: post #124

€4000 euros plus tax to replace the module that contains the fuse. Insane. The ford transit custom PHEV costs £4500 to replace the timing belt. Access issues mean dropping the hybrid battery and parts of the sub frame. Compare with the mk8 transit, i've done the wet belt myself on that and it requires no special tools (well, i bought a specific crank pulley puller for £20) and can be done in a day on the driveway. I…

> So far my favourite brand to work on has been Mazda, the engineering is very thoughtfully done with consideration for repairs I've heard this from mechanics already 15+ years ago. Mazda seem to still have this reputation. I wish there were more repairability scores for cars.

> more repairability scores

In the abstract, if you have access you can look at the technicians manual, and see how many labor hours are allotted to various common repairs, you can even look at common problems and see what the common outcomes were to repair the vehicle.

Unfortunately, most people don't have access to this highly valuable resource.

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