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Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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Post by macNchz »

Xenoamorphous wrote: post #442
macNchz wrote: post #114

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I think it’s more reasonable to consider Coca Cola as having a significant brand value moat, given that they’re 140 years old and one of the most recognizable brands in the world. That also gets at the other side of their moat: distribution. Coca Cola is available basically everywhere, and a challenger would have to invest massively to simply get in front of as many people on shelves. In that way, other companies (Go…

Who cares if it took 140 or 3 years to get brand recognition. ChatGPT is also everywhere if you have an Internet connection.

There’s a difference between something that has existed for a few years that lots of people have heard of, and something that people have been buying their entire lives, and that their grandparents also bought for their entire lives. As to distribution—the internet certainly makes it logistically easier to get your product to consumers, but an infinitely large store shelf still means you’re competing for consumer attention, and the big players already have that attention for their existing successful products.

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Post by dreamcompiler »

a4isms wrote: post #404
staticman2 wrote: post #390

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The robot suggested a coke zero because it was paid to by the Coca-Cola Company. Now you'll need to buy more coke zero to replace what you drank.

The business model for Tesla and xAI is actually very simple and superior to OpenAI and Google's. No, this is not satire: The business model is that his companies are meme stocks, and controlling social media means controlling meme stocks. The business model is also that his companies require corporate socialism, and controlling social media means influencing government policy. He can talk about AI driving cars, but…

And just like all meme stocks and so-called stablecoins, it'll work until it doesn't. The fall will be dramatic.

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Post by LanceJones »

senordevnyc wrote: post #427
a4isms wrote: post #353

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Poe's Law notwithstanding, I find it hard to believe that anyone would think I was making a good faith business acumen observation. If Optimus walks you to the kitchen to get a coke, what's Tesla's business model? Charge by the nanosecond for compute time?

Tesla doesn’t need a business model, they’re a meme stock.

Perhaps. I suppose the biggest in history then? $1.4T valuation and 60% of shares held by non-meme institutions (like pension funds, S&P tracking ETFs, etc) when you factor out insiders.

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Post by Lockranor »

pier25 wrote: post #210

So basically they are admitting that not enough people will pay for it to be a profitable business. Also that they don’t have any significant improvements to the tech coming up.

That assumes that the move is a necessity. It doesn't have to be; pure profit motive is enough to introduce the concept preemptively.

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Post by shinycode »

dangus wrote: post #243
aurareturn wrote: post #14

- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

You are 100% correct, and I don’t mean to refute your comment by saying this: For me personally, the moment AI has ads, I’m out. I’ve drawn this line with search engines as well. I now pay for a no-ads search engine. But for AI, I think I’d rather buy some hardware or use my existing desktop PC and run something local with search engine integration. I know this won’t be a popular option but I think this time around I…

I second that, trust is broken if there is ads. The line of great ads to weird ads to pushy-borderline-scam ads into personal context is thin. Hopefully the price of local will go down and maybe apple will be able to push most of it on-device. The day chatGPT push ads in a conversation I stop using it.

  The thing is with llm, it went so fast to get that many users, it means people are used to adopt new stuff as well. With proper marketing and specific feature I won’t be surprised to see people switch service as easily they start  using it in the first place because the barrier is so low.

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Post by lucb1e »

astura wrote: post #196
dannyfritz07 wrote: post #173

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I must be blind. How do you downvote? I've only ever seen an upvote.

You have to have a minimum amount of karma here to get a down vote button. I think it's 500.

Correct. And to add: it only applies to comments; non-moderators cannot downvote stories

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Post by DANmode »

neximo64 wrote: post #162
afavour wrote: post #131

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> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are In think the point is that they don’t need to know what Gemini is, they just need to know Google, which they most definitely do. IMO ads rollout won’t be as simple as you’re describing it. A lot of people have switched from Google search to AI specifically because it isn’t filled with SEO, ad filled nonsense. So they’ll need to tread very, very carefully to in…

> most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are That's actually changed a while ago.

Disagree.

Wait - are you in California?

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