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Re: Google Antigravity

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We need a VS Code fork that just exposes more interfaces, and does nothing else. Then all these forks could just use that with power extensions, and it'd force Microsoft to change its behavior.

You just described Eclipse RCP. The issue with Eclipse and that approach is the complexity of mixing plugins to do everything, which kills the UX. When VSCode started, the differentiator from Atom and Eclipse was that the extension points were intentionally limited to optimize the user experience. But with the introduction of Copilot that wasn’t enough, hence the amount of forks. I think that the Zed approach of havi…

There's actually an ACP that has some traction as well, though I don't think it solves the problem of what the agent can do in vscode: https://agentcommunicationprotocol.dev/introduction/welcome

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As an introvert, that's a pro, not a con. The burden of human interaction is removed from building.

I'm an introvert and I love working with nice people. I just need some time by myself to recharge after all the social interactions.

As a team lead, working with people is so... cumbersome. They need time to recharge, lots of encouragement, and a nice place to work in. Give me a coding agent any time!

Re: Google Antigravity

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> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

What other UI framework looks as good on Windows, Mac and Linux?

Re: Google Antigravity

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> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

I wouldn't bet on an Electron app winning anything long-term in the dev-oriented space.

It’s kind of a meme to dunk on Electron, but here’s it’s been for years.

It’s part of the furniture at this point, for better or worse. Maybe don’t bet on it, but certainly wouldn’t be smart to bet against it, either.

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AIUI the forks are required because Microsoft is gatekeeping functionality used by Copilot from extensions so they can't be used by these agents.

> AIUI the forks are required because Microsoft is gatekeeping functionality used by Copilot from extensions so they can't be used by these agents. reply I always wonder how this works legally. VSCode needs to comply with the LGPL (it's based on Chromium/Blink which is LGPL) ; they should provide the entire sources that allow us to rebuild our own "official" VSCode binary

I think that MS provides these extensions as plugins. The core of VSCode is OSS, it's the extra bits that have a different license.

Re: Google Antigravity

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It's insane to me that I can't pay $20/$200 bucks after running out of limits in ~5 messages.

Why would you not at least link it to the pro and ultra accounts

at least you could upsell the pro subs to ultra. Millions of claude code and codex users who are into agentic coding is your servicable market paying attention today.

Now I'll delete antigravity and go back to codex / claude code / cursor ...

Re: Google Antigravity

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"Congratulations, you have been elevated to manager to agents." That's not exactly really where I hoped my career would lead. It's like managing junior developers, but without having nice people to work with.

"junior developers" is a convenient label, it is incorrect but it will take a bit until we come up something that describes entities that: - can write code - tireless - have no aspirations - have no stylistic or architectural preferences - have massive, but at the same time not well defined, body of knowledge - have no intrinsic memories of past interactions. - change in unexpected ways when underlying models change…

I describe them in the claude training I'm doing for my company as: super smart, infinitely patient, overeager interns

Re: Google Antigravity

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I gave it a fair shot. It is a vs code fork. There were some UI glitches. Some usability was better. Cursor has some real annoying usability issues - like their previous/next code change never going away and no way to disable it. Design of this one looks more polished and less muddy. I was working on a project and just continued with it. It was easy because they import setting from cursor. Feels like the browser wars…

> It is a vs code fork Google may have won the browser wars with Chrome, but Microsoft seems to be winning the IDE wars with VSCode

VSCode IS chrome though.
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