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Valve is about to win the console generation

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Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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Post by array_key_first »

Hikikomori wrote: post #420
mschuster91 wrote: post #349

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> Meaning, allowing linux you'd probably be flooded with cheaters if you already get them on windows. There's an easy way to not get cheaters, or at least to slow down their impact: stop making your games "free to play". When cheaters have to buy 60€ games everytime they get b&, eventually they'll run out of money.

That really doesn't stop cheaters. Tarkov EoD edition is $150 or so, cheaters still cheat on those. They cheat in cs2 with skins worth thousands.

That's because there's no moderation and they don't get banned. If they got banned, they wouldn't cheat.

Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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Post by Codazoa »

squigz wrote: post #426
tianreyma wrote: post #391

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My nephew changed the DNS settings on his PS5, some things stopped working, and took me quite a while to figure out what he had done.

Lock it down some more. Why would a user need to change their DNS ever anyway?

Custom DNS server? In my experience you can't really lock down the network settings on consoles because anyone playing might need to reconnect to wifi

Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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LexiMax wrote: post #415
aaomidi wrote: post #368

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We’re going to have to figure out a better way of dealing with cheaters. You could be playing against an AI model specifically trained on that game. No anti cheat is going to detect that.

I find it much more likely that Valve enables Secure Boot on their Steam hardware. I imagine that if this happens, it will be followed by popular Linux distros finally becoming serious about their Secure Boot implementations, instead of simply shimming it or seen as a rarely-used feature reserved for enterprise distros like RHEL. Some of us actually think that having some sort of validation that our OS hasn't been ta…

It's both a technological and political problem.

All the platforms that went all-in on secure boot like things and attestation are anti-consumer hellholes that slurp all your data. The evidence just does not look good. Maybe Linux is different, but it's swimming against the tide here. It would be the first of it's kind.

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bobbob27 wrote: post #475
jsmailes wrote: post #242

For me, the big killer feature would be if this device is approved for modern media DRM. As much as I'm tired of streaming and its level of control over how I watch TV, it's still a decent part of my media consumption, but any Linux mini-PC I connect to the TV can only do low-resolution streaming from most providers. If the steam machine is approved for high-resolution streaming, it could totally replace the smart TV…

Hmm there's a chance you simply need to make sure the Widevine drm is installed on your system

This doesn't help much. It will let the content load, but many platforms will limit you to 720p or even standard definition (gasp!!)

YouTube, for example, will give you 480p. For movies. That you bought. With money.

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Post by array_key_first »

esseph wrote: post #16
lawlessone wrote: post #10

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I love great graphics but , Nintendo carved a nice big niche out for themselves by recognizing the constant drive for best graphics is a bit of rat race.

Nintendo has a tiny library. Steam does not.

Very true, but that tiny library happens to occupy like 80% of the biggest IP.

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Post by skinnymuch »

wraptile wrote: post #167
SkiFire13 wrote: post #165

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If you have a bunch of friends that have battlefield/cod/fortnite and want to play them, they will still do so without you, or at least heavily pressure you into getting them.

I'm not sure what could that even mean from consumer pov - I'm not going to buy a platform because some of my friends might want me to play a specific game with me? The pressure to get more games on your platform has never been as low as it is today and has never been this low on Steam itself. You could spend a lifetime with the current Steam library and never feel bored. From product pov Valve feels very comfortable…

Yea as a casual I only care about gaming with others. I don’t care about doing it on my own so my consumer behavior depends on social stuff

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Post by bickeringyokel »

array_key_first wrote: post #480
wmeredith wrote: post #366

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Thank you for calling this out. As a long time console gamer, I hadn't noticed this creeping bloat until I started playing games with my young children. My son begged for a new Madden game after playing it at his friend's house. When we got the game, it probably took us an hour of fucking around with downloads and accounts. Off the top of my head, I had to set up a parents EA account and kids account, set permissions…

I had this experience playing couch co-op call of duty a few years ago. I had to make a fucking account . It's not even my console. Nintendo has wavered a tad, but they're the closet to the original experience. You pop in a thingy, hook up another controller, or two, or three, and you're off. It just works, maybe you can input a name for your guy, maybe not, maybe you just always play Waluigi so everyone knows who yo…

Had to do the same with halo infinite at my friends house, tried to use some burner emails and it kept banning our 2nd player within a few minutes. Gotta love the digital future.

Re: Valve is about to win the console generation

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Post by pezezin »

culi wrote: post #468
pezezin wrote: post #299

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More like 50 years if you consider emulators (RetroArch is available on Steam).

It doesn't even need to be available on Steam to be fair. You can run whatever games you want. You could even run a Nintendo Switch emulator if you want

True. And that is the strength of the PC platform, its openness and being able to run whatever you want.
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