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I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by matt-attack »

Scoundreller wrote: post #221
bcoates wrote: post #192

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I think he said sharing a circuit with a fridge, which are generally 110 in the US -- i think this is how my apartment is wired (2-phase 30A to oven dedicated, one 20A for the whole rest of kitchen) Trying to run a resistive heater on the same circuit as a fridge compressor without tripping leans towards very conservative wattage

That's funny. Code in Ontario Canada is that the fridge needs to be on its own circuit. It's funny because we have an extra-big-ass inverter drive fridge that never draws more than an amp or two, even at startup because it's inherently soft-start. Just a waste of copper and a beaker really.

Refrigerators have become incredibly efficient in the last 40 years. I mean incredibly.

It sounds like this law is outdated.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by Telaneo »

matt-attack wrote: post #480
383toast wrote: post #2

summary: The creator argues that most dishwashers are designed to use a pre-wash dose and a main wash dose of detergent, a fundamental often ignored by single-dose pods, and presents independent ASTM testing confirming the new powder matches or exceeds the performance of a leading premium pod. The video also features a detailed demonstration using temperature logging and peanut butter to stress the importance of purg…

I never understood the requirement for having to preheat your pipes. The dishwasher has access to a hotline, and a drain. Why wouldn’t it just run the hot water for 60 seconds to ensure it has maximum heat. This would just be a software feature, and cost nothing on their part. It seems so arcane for the operator to have to do this before running a cycle

There are regulations on water usage for dishwashers. That purge would eat into its water usage.

Yes, purging the cold water manually does exactly the same thing. We live in a flawed world.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by jiehong »

Reminds me of a question I had when working in a restaurant: what’s the difference between home dishwashers and restaurant dishwashers?

I mean, how come restaurants dishwashers wash things under 5 minutes? (Albeit with a lot of noise and with stronger water jets).

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by Dylan16807 »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #463
sgerenser wrote: post #457

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Bosch dishwashers are NOT heat pump dishwashers! They have a pump that also heats the water. They call it a “heat pump” but I find that terminology a bit strange, as its clearly not a heat pump (which is a term of art in appliances and HVAC). It’s just a resistive heater that is no more efficient than any other dishwasher heating element.

Crystal dry uses a heat exchanger for drying, so I guess that is what they are referring to. I guess you could try to claim that only the way HVAC's move heat around qualifies for being called a heat pump, not any other way of moving it should count right? Here is what I got from Gemini: Bosch does not refer to their dishwashers as having a "heat pump" in the same way the term is used for HVAC systems; rather, the pa…

> I guess you could try to claim that only the way HVAC's move heat around qualifies for being called a heat pump, not any other way of moving it should count right?

Anything that moves heat from one area to another, not just evening them out but actually forcing the heat to move, counts as a heat pump. HVAC style, or peltier style, or other methods with tension or chemical reactions all count.

A combination heater and circulator does not do that. It is not a heat pump.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by Dylan16807 »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #291
Turskarama wrote: post #286

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It's the same issue, if you have a higher voltage then you can get more power without increasing current. For example in Australia a standard house circuit is 10 Amps, but because it's at 240V we can get 2400 Watts (realistically more like 2300) out of a _standard_ wall outlet that is in every room of your house.

It's not the same issue. The vast majority of kitchens in the US have 20 amp circuits (so 2,400 watts peak, 1,920 watts continuous) exclusively. It's a bog standard receptacle (NEMA 5-20R instead of 5-15R) that's backwards compatible with 15 amp plugs. In fact these days most 5-15R receptacles have identical guts to their 20 amp counterparts save for the additional provision for a horizontal blade. The electrical cod…

But they're staying shy of the amp limit on purpose. So designing for 20 amps would be somewhat of a boost but not enough. While doubling voltage would actually fix the problem.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by Dylan16807 »

mlsu wrote: post #409
dangus wrote: post #367

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This whole thread is kind of infuriating. The gist you took away is not quite right because of course you didn’t watch it. Why does everything have to be summarized? If you want to see the content watch the content. Technology Connections videos are interesting, entertaining (to nerds at least) and a lot of effort goes into them. Watch them at 1.5 speed if you’d like. Or don’t watch them at all. But the “give me a tr…

I want my whole life to be optimized, so that I can consume far more but get nothing out of any of my consumption. Anything that requires art, ingenuity, and human effort can be compressed to a simple bullet point summary. I don't care that Technology Connections is the perfect blend of campy midwestern technical pedantry, substantive detail, great editing, understated humor. It must undergo machine digestion, its hu…

I hope you had fun making one of the most-straw strawmen I've seen all year.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by Dylan16807 »

dangus wrote: post #384
dpoloncsak wrote: post #378

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If I wanted a summary of Citizen Kane, I would expect it to include the ending, yes.

The value in the content is experiencing it. The moment some long form content comes out we are all TikTok kids who want a five second summary. Never mind the fact that YouTube provides a compete transcription that you can copy/paste and dump into an LLM, making this entire thread, as I mentioned before, pointless. The people asking for a summary are lazy people who want to be spoon fed trivia dopamine hits.

Sometimes people just want to learn a thing.

That is okay.

Better than okay, learning is a good thing. And it's extremely impossible to watch every quality video.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by Dylan16807 »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #443
benkaiser wrote: post #357

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Counter-example... some people have no idea that SLS is causing these issues and just chalk it up to how things are. I recently switched to an SLS free toothpaste but it was really hard to track one down that still had flouride in it!

> it was really hard to track one down that still had flouride in it Oh, so you are one of those tin foil hat types that does not want fluoride in their toothpaste or drinking water? What the hell is it with fluoride and Internet randos? There is always one who pops into a discussion who has a hysterical story about why they avoid it. Repeating from my previous post, but this time about fluoride: >

That... that's not what they said.

Please check what people say before you throw a rant at them.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by Dylan16807 »

tonymet wrote: post #410
throwaway2037 wrote: post #123

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> Skincare & toothpaste products contain sodium laureth sulfate , which lathers well, but causes mouth sores and skin irritation. This is only true for sensitive individuals. Billions of people use these products every day and have no issues.

Don’t worry about that canary falling over , he’s just hypersensitive

The reason you check the canary is because the gasses are building up and will eventually become dangerous to the non-sensitive life in the mine. Toothpaste surfactants don't build up.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by TheGoddessInari »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #366
losvedir wrote: post #83

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This has been his stance for a long time. He has a lot of dishwasher videos for some reason! One thing I can't get a good answer to is whether the "prewash" step is universally the case or not. I have a good Bosch dishwasher and there's no compartment for a bit of pre-wash detergent. I don't even know if my dishwasher cycle has a pre-wash step. I would assume the dishwasher manufacturer knows what's best. The owner's…

> He has a lot of dishwasher videos for some reason! have you watched his videos? dude is on the spectrum. to be clear, he makes good vids. but his fascinations exist for a reason.

Reductive and inaccurate.
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