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Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by nicce »

pixl97 wrote: post #466
idkcomputers wrote: post #459

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right. This is like they've stopped offering free gift wrapping. You can take it home in the plain package for free if you want.

It's been talked to death in other threads already, but typically when you provide a service, even if it's free, it is polite to give warning that you will stop providing said service in the future. If they are trying to push people to commercial services I typically attempt to steer away from companies that make rash decisions with a moments notice, rather than ones that would leave you high and dry.

> It's been talked to death in other threads already, but typically when you provide a service, even if it's free, it is polite to give warning that you will stop providing said service in the future.

They actually did that by saying that there are no new releases planned and new releases may be cut at anytime and everyone uses them at their own risk.

https://github.com/minio/minio/commit/9e49d5e7a648f00e26f224...

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by _joel »

hansmayer wrote: post #480
Jeslijar wrote: post #434

I'll let docker's security team know that an insecure, obsolete docker image is being served and the maintainers have officially acknowledged they will no longer support it. Best to get insecure and vulnerable software out of the hands of those who may not be familiar with this CVE or their change in policy that has not gotten a press release in any way.

...Or just spend 10 minutes and familiarise yourself with the basic docker build command? Its really dead simple.

Then you have to maintain a pipline and registry just to fix something that should be fixed upstream?

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by antiloper »

To everyone who gets blocked by this: I prompted Haiku 4.5, Anthropic's cheapest current model, in Claude Code with "Read this github issue: https://github.com/minio/minio/issues/21647 I need a new docker image for the latest minio version. Make it so.". It wrote a Dockerfile, I asked it to build it (not only am I incapable of finding and downloading the Dockerfile from the repository myself, I'm even incapable of remembering how to "build" a "docker"file). It spew out an error which the cheapest model promptly fixed and gave me an image.

You need to be able to do this personally or you should not be running a durable storage cluster in-house. Just pay AWS. You need to add more value to your employer than you cost, and if Anthropic's cheapest model can beat you at such a task then it's not a good look.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by reconnecting »

wmf wrote: post #475
reconnecting wrote: post #470

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I mean, what's the difference in pricing between AGPL and a commercial license? €50k/year? €100k/year? Do you think Docker binaries are something that could hypothetically drive conversion from AGPL users to commercial licenses?

There's definitely an air of desperation here. It's not going to work but they have to try it anyway.

I am really interested in this case, as I cannot imagine any commercial benefit from this decision.

Free users will not pay tens/hundreds of thousands for just binary files.

Obviously this will slow down the adoption of the AGPL version, against which the growth of the paid version potentially will look better in Excel reports for VCs, but something tells me that this is unlikely to be the real reason.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by NewJazz »

reconnecting wrote: post #454
msarrel wrote: post #446

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Almost as useless as docker pulls, and MinIO claims both as vanity metrics.

OK, have a look at GitHub contributors metric. 404 today, 405 yesterday. Just to clarify, I'm not affiliated with or protecting MinIO, I don't know anything about this software. But it seems to me that there's some overreaction about Docker here, and in reality it is highly possible that this decision might not affect the product the way it's being discussed these days.

Are those active contributors or lifetime contributors? And don't those counts leave out anyone who doesn't have a github account or doesn't associate their got email with their github account?

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by ecshafer »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #443
nekusar wrote: post #424

So, basically, MinIO is dead. Time to move on, folks. Dead horse is dead. Kicking it will release toxic decomposition sludge.

Fun, I had just started using it as a the data store for a distributed Rust compilation cache, guess we're moving that somewhere else. Hopefully the choice of NixOS as our server OS will make this easier rather than harder. What alternatives do people recommend that has at least similar features-set and at least similar performance as MinIO?

I made a comment above about some, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45684035#45684826

Ceph is what I think but there are lot of alternatives.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by malicka »

nicce wrote: post #481
pixl97 wrote: post #466

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been talked to death in other threads already, but typically when you provide a service, even if it's free, it is polite to give warning that you will stop providing said service in the future. If they are trying to push people to commercial services I typically attempt to steer away from companies that make rash decisions with a moments notice, rather than ones that would leave you high and dry.

> It's been talked to death in other threads already, but typically when you provide a service, even if it's free, it is polite to give warning that you will stop providing said service in the future. They actually did that by saying that there are no new releases planned and new releases may be cut at anytime and everyone uses them at their own risk. https://github.com/minio/minio/commit/9e49d5e7a648f00e26f224...

… that commit is from last week. One week is not at all a sufficient warning, that’s rash and makes them look quite bad. Practically manic.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by switchbak »

antiloper wrote: post #483

To everyone who gets blocked by this: I prompted Haiku 4.5, Anthropic's cheapest current model, in Claude Code with "Read this github issue: https://github.com/minio/minio/issues/21647 I need a new docker image for the latest minio version. Make it so.". It wrote a Dockerfile, I asked it to build it (not only am I incapable of finding and downloading the Dockerfile from the repository myself, I'm even incapable of re…

> you should not be running a durable storage cluster in-house

If you’re running Minio, odds are you have interesting use cases that are not filled by S3. I wouldn’t make such blanket statements.

I don’t think anyone is surprised that an LLM can help you here either.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by cyanydeez »

bee_rider wrote: post #400
cyanydeez wrote: post #373

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oh you really butchered that metaphor. The ratchet isn't what's getting paid in the metaphor, it's the person turning it. There's always a time-sink cost to a public project. Anyway, there's definitely a public good argument to turn certain software projects into utilities.

I don’t think that’s what they were going for. They said “ I'd be pissed if I had to pay $0.10 every time I turned a rachet” so the person turning the ratchet is the one paying. Who they pay to is unknown.

ok, but the ratchet isn't what's being paid. It's the labor. The ratchet is irrevelent. It's the time it takes. And it's the POV.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by trueismywork »

reconnecting wrote: post #468
aerostable_slug wrote: post #465

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Pure anecdata: the fact that this is happening at all has us (at work) looking for alternatives. Once we finalize on the best one we'll swap out MinIO permanently. I can't imagine we're the only ones, but who knows?

If you use this tech, perhaps you could explain what the real issue is behind dropping Docker? I mean, it's still AGPL licensed — why can't you use it from source? In other words, what is the significant difference for your team that's worth changing the stack and navigating through the uncertainty of an alternative product?

Ease of setup and certified working solution. And yes, people should pay for certified working solution. But not when they use it the first time itself
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