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Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by shinypants »

blactuary wrote: post #328
dymk wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m playing the world’s smallest violin for those poor parking enforcement officers

Parking enforcement is unequivocally good and these people are not regular cops

I have to disagree that it is unequivocally good as many of the tickets SFMTA writes are for minor inconsequential violations and are disproportionately punitive. Obviously this is my opinion and personal experience but in the past 6 months I have received multiple tickets for not turning my wheels enough on a flat street, tickets for missing license plates (it was just not visible), and for miscommunication between the residential permitting and parking authority. Each of these was over $100 and/or required me to spend a considerable amount of effort to resolve. More than any other city I have lived in the parking authority seems almost adversarial to car ownership and streamlining of the bureaucracy related to car ownership.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by JdeBP »

Aachen wrote: post #436
crazygringo wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference between being in public and being tracked. Of course they don't have expectations of privacy in terms of people being able to e.g. take photos or videos of them. The same way people can take photos of you or me. But broadcasting someone's real-time location to the whole world all day long, in real time, is something else entirely. That has never been considered part of being in public. That's tar…

> Of course they don't have expectations of privacy in terms of people being able to e.g. take photos or videos of them. The same way people can take photos of you or me. Might be a culture difference with europe but I find it rude if someone would take a picture of me without asking. I can think of few purposes (stalking, facial recognition training or tracking, sharing in a chat group to make fun of) that you can d…

It's not only a culture difference but a legal one. It's not just rude, it's actually illegal in some parts of Europe. Some parts of Europe remember what it was like when people went around photographing other people and making reports on them. Furthermore, in the Netherlands, for example, there's a portrait right that photograph subjects have.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by Eisenstein »

dymk wrote: post #426
Eisenstein wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be fair, but is it a good idea? What you are doing is justifying something you wouldn't agree with because it targets people belonging to an organization doing the thing you don't agree with. That is can be problematic because 1. They now can say 'well it is done to us why can't we do it to others' instead of engaging with real arguments about using ALPR flock cameras to track people 2. You assume that a per…

The police as an organization do not care about engaging with you in good faith and are far past a race to the bottom regarding surveillance.

A race is composed of more than one party.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by varenc »

varenc wrote: post #397

I suspect is the source of the data: https://prdwmq.etimspayments.com/pbw/include/sanfrancisco/di... The online tool that lets you pay a citation doesn't list the citation's address, but that one above does. It's protected with a CAPTCHA, but a very weak one that's definitely no longer effective in our current era. My guess is the company SF hires to handles their parking citations will deploy reCAPTCHA or Cloudflare…

According to twitter they deployed cloudflare!

https://x.com/rtwlz/status/1971003420317520042

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by bumseltagbaerbi »

RS-232 wrote: post #327
jcalvinowens wrote: post #324

I gotta say, it's incredibly inconsiderate and thoughtless to publish the real time location of a bunch of public safety officers in an individually identifiable way. I understand the sentiment, and I appreciate the hackery... but you put these people at risk today. You need to think much more carefully about how you approach things like this in the future.

I disagree. There should be no expectation of privacy for any public officer. Things like this website, body cameras, and FOIA requests are all for the public good. Expose corruption and keep everyone safer with a little accountability.

Everyone, just not officers?

As soon as the bodycams oh so requested by the Left were worn, it became slowly clear who the majority of perpetrators are in Cops vs. Blacks, Antifa, white liberal women... Now the Left's opinion seems to turn against these.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by pclmulqdq »

Eisenstein wrote: post #483
dymk wrote: post #426

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police as an organization do not care about engaging with you in good faith and are far past a race to the bottom regarding surveillance.

A race is composed of more than one party.

Don't worry, urban police departments will find the bottom as fast as possible without anyone else's help. You're not "racing" by joining them.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by elfonfire »

bumseltagbaerbi wrote: post #485
RS-232 wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. There should be no expectation of privacy for any public officer. Things like this website, body cameras, and FOIA requests are all for the public good. Expose corruption and keep everyone safer with a little accountability.

Everyone, just not officers? As soon as the bodycams oh so requested by the Left were worn, it became slowly clear who the majority of perpetrators are in Cops vs. Blacks, Antifa, white liberal women... Now the Left's opinion seems to turn against these.

chat, is this bait?

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by Aachen »

JdeBP wrote: post #482
Aachen wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Of course they don't have expectations of privacy in terms of people being able to e.g. take photos or videos of them. The same way people can take photos of you or me. Might be a culture difference with europe but I find it rude if someone would take a picture of me without asking. I can think of few purposes (stalking, facial recognition training or tracking, sharing in a chat group to make fun of) that you can d…

It's not only a culture difference but a legal one. It's not just rude, it's actually illegal in some parts of Europe. Some parts of Europe remember what it was like when people went around photographing other people and making reports on them. Furthermore, in the Netherlands, for example, there's a portrait right that photograph subjects have.

Well yeah, there is that, too. I don't really care about the law so much as ethics though because law follows societal norms and this law isn't commonly enforced anyway

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by yannk »

Lammy wrote: post #7

Love the leaderboard feature. Relevant fee breakdown: https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/reports-and-docume...

Actually... those fees are outdated. It jumped to me because for the first time in years I got a fine for "parking on grades" - Somehow I was distracted and turned my wheels the opposite direction.

So I found the fees for July 2025[1]. My fine was $108 and not $68

But also they made errors in publishing their fees, they claimed it didn't increase this year, but it did [2] - and asked the AI to find all the other inconsistencies.

So now I wonder if I should ask for $40 back. That's a dramatic increase, and seems like the intent was it to stay at $68

[1] https://www.sfmta.com/media/42628/download?inline [2] https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/3330732a-2bd1-497d-ab...

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