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Waymo granted permit to begin testing in New York City

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Re: Waymo granted permit to begin testing in New York City

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I'm mostly curious how they'll handle winter.

Waymo has been testing in snow conditions since 2017 in Michigan and more recently in Chicago, using specialized sensors and machine learning models that can detect road edges and lane markings even when covered with snow.

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Complete unrelated, I just wish every driver on the road re-learn that cyclists have the same rights of being on city roads like cars.

Cyclists contribute to congestion and occupy road space that was created through taxes on motorists while paying nothing for these benefits. Cyclists are not licensed and their bicycles are not tagged or inspected for safe operation on roads, unlike motorists. Cyclists are rarely subjected to traffic law enforcement despite demanding all of the rights that motorists pay for and are licensed for. Cyclists are a danger…

Motorists __DO NOT COVER__ the costs of roads. Your existence as a motorist is entirely subsidized. The cost of driving is borne by government and society. Road infrastructure, maintenance, and space for cars is actually insanely expensive.

Re: Waymo granted permit to begin testing in New York City

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Man I love Waymo everytime I'm in SF. Truly feel like I'm living in the future when I sit in one

Biggest thing I'm excited for is knowing what the cost will be ahead of time Which Uber used to provide... Until they were infected with tipping. Hell, I will gladly pay more than I would've spent on a tip (20%) just to avoid the hassle.

> Until they were infected with tipping

I and most of my friends stopped tipping Ubers in New York after ride-share drivers won hourly wage minimums.

Re: Waymo granted permit to begin testing in New York City

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> I would adore to see obtaining a drivers license ratchet up in difficulty in order to remove dangerous human drivers from the road. I think it would be far more effective to make it easier to lose your license than it would be to make getting the license more challenging. The absolute most dangerous drivers I see on the road aren't bad drivers in the sense that they're unskilled at controlling their car. I can't we…

Don't you think it would be easier and cheaper to gatekeep than to build up an enforcement and judgement workforce.

The people that are good but dangerous drivers will drive well and safely during tests, so you won't catch them.

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I just wish every cyclist would re-learn that they're bound by the same traffics laws as every driver on the road. I'd bet accidents are more often than not mostly their fault.

> I'd bet accidents are more often than not mostly their fault. That's actually not true. Most surveys I've seen show that drivers are at fault ~80% of the time.

Surveys?

“Yes I’ve been in an accident on my bike Mr. Poll Taker.”

“What? Of course it was the other guy’s fault!”

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Maybe it's only one part of an overall trend in cultural rot around rule enforcement. A woman had her dog in the cart at Costco that kept barking at people. I joked with an employee during check-out "So anyone can bring their dog to the store these days?" and she said they stopped confronting these people because it's not worth it and makes things worse. Worse for who? Man, I thought that was the exact type of person…

The woman is going to claim it’s a service animal. There’s no real rules about service animals—-and even where there are rules, like with learning disabilities, doctors and other professionals act like whores and sell their signatures to anyone with money. It’s widespread bad parenting for generations now. How can a store fight that?

> The woman is going to claim it’s a service animal. There’s no real rules about service animals

I agree with your overall point, but there are actually rules about what types of behavior are unacceptable for service animals. Uncontrolled or disruptive barking is one of those unacceptable behaviors.

The store would be entirely within their right to warn this person and remove the owner and/or ban the “service animal”.

That said, unless you have a legal team that aggressively embraces these sorts of acts against people who abuse the service animal rules, it’s almost always more practical just to let it go. Some of these folks have significant psychological issues, and you’ve already lost once you’ve entered a conflict with an unstable person.

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There is a question, NYC driving gets by with everyone driving aggressive and breaking road rules. That is something that does not exist as much in other markets. My complaint with Tesla city FSD is that it’s not quick or aggressive enough. It will come to long and complete stops and other things that will not work well in NYC.

I think you'd be surprised how aggressive driving has become normalized throughout the world?

The world, for sure. But not in America. I've driven in most major US cities and I drive daily in NYC. There really is no comparison in any other major US city to how we drive in NYC.

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And I wish cyclists would re-learn that pedestrians have more rights of being on sidewalks. That said, the bigger plague on sidewalks are e-scooters. Additionally, most cyclists I see never stop at stop signs no matter how busy the intersection is.

In many places cyclists are not required to stop for stop signs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop

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Re: Waymo granted permit to begin testing in New York City

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Complete unrelated, I just wish every driver on the road re-learn that cyclists have the same rights of being on city roads like cars.

Cyclists contribute to congestion and occupy road space that was created through taxes on motorists while paying nothing for these benefits. Cyclists are not licensed and their bicycles are not tagged or inspected for safe operation on roads, unlike motorists. Cyclists are rarely subjected to traffic law enforcement despite demanding all of the rights that motorists pay for and are licensed for. Cyclists are a danger…

I do pay taxes, just like a motorist might. Where do you live that you think your car or your gas is taxed in a way that contributes to road upkeep? In the US gas taxes haven't been upped in decades, roadways are maintained out of the common coffers (incl. large federal incentives which come straight out of your income tax payments).

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Hitting the brakes and getting rear ended is barely even a crash compared to T-boning someone or plowing over pedestrians

I didn't say that. I said they'd panic and throw their vehicle into reverse. Cars/trucks can take the hit, motorcycles/bicycles not so much.

Huge skepticism that bicycles and motorcycles were getting backed into in any appreciable quantities.
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