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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Why do people need to create anthropomorphising narratives around companies? Don't be any company's cheerleader, use the stuff that's best for you (and the environment)

Agreed, but apparently company cheerleadering never goes away.

The same way cheerleading USA presidents doesn't go away, but if you look around you see things like Switzerland with direct democracy that just works without it.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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This comment comes some 15 years late. Microsoft runs the biggest org on github and has open sourced a lot of their own code under permissive licenses. IE has been dead and buried for ages. Edge doesn't have even close to the same market share and is based on Chromium. They build more and more of their own UIs on Electron. I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to som…

Idk i can think of a long list of awful stuff coming out of ms that is modern. They put fing ads in an os among other atrocities. I put them behind meta on the evilness meter but i think google is less evil which speaks volumes. The only side of ms that i have any love for is xbox but that is also waning with all the studio acquisitions.

> They put fing ads in an os among other atrocities.

As did Ubuntu.

>I put them behind meta on the evilness meter but i think google is less evil which speaks volumes.

Huh? The same google caught tracking your every move even if you opted out? The Google that seems to serve ads based on your conversations if anyone in the room has an Android phone? The Google that actively tries to kill any and all ad blockers?

They aren’t even close…

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

> - making cringe hardware that basically noone purchased (Zune, Windows Phone)

The Surface looks cool to me, but since it runs Windows, I will never use it. Does it only look cool, or is actually a cool device?

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

This comment comes some 15 years late. Microsoft runs the biggest org on github and has open sourced a lot of their own code under permissive licenses. IE has been dead and buried for ages. Edge doesn't have even close to the same market share and is based on Chromium. They build more and more of their own UIs on Electron. I honestly don't remember when they tried to snare someone to use proprietary extensions to som…

VsCode is in a weird licensing limbo, or some of its microsoft plugins are anyway

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I see more people jump for Codeberg these days.

Or even better, claim full sovereignty (again) and install Forgejo ( https://forgejo.org/ ) on your own hardware. You'll get the same experience as Codeberg, because Codeberg is in fact running on Forgejo

I have PRs open on five different OSS projects at the moment. My throughput is being limited by trying to remember all the details of PRs I filed 3-6 weeks ago.

I thinK I have to admit to myself that as little as I like github having all the projects, I'd be less effective having to track inboxes across half a dozen different hosting platforms.

If you made something like Mastodon, where alerts propagate across instances, I could probably deal. But without that? No, I'll pass.

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I've been in a three different scenarios where I worked for independent companies under the umbrella of a large parent organization. In all 3, the leadership left or was fired, and the remainder of the company was merged into a division of the parent company. The product quality went to shit in all 3 scenarios. There were different reasons and nuances to them all, but all 3 boiled down to one common factor. Instead o…

I've heard this story so many times. 1) A company starts by serving a real customer need, is driven by the people doing real (engineers, designers, mechanics, etc.). 2) The company gets large. The hierarchy gets deeper, decisions are made by people removed from the actual work. 3) The company either a) drives away all the people who actually enjoy quality work and stagnates/devolves b) or is bought by a large corpora…

>How come people will vehemently defend democracy as the only just system of governance at the nation state level but are perfectly OK with dictatorship at the company level?

Funny you should ask this. A co-worker was unironically glazing monarchies and suggested some books to me when we were drinking at dinner Friday. I was disgusted, tbh. But do not underestimate the desire of people to be ruled and told how to think and act.

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> when they finally execute on the blindingly obvious strategic play that they are naturally positioned for What's that? It's not obvious to me, anyway.

My guess would be local AI. Apple Silicon is uniquely suitable with its shared memory.

Yeah exactly. The MacBook Pro is by far the most capable consumer device for local LLM.

A beefed up NPU could provide a big edge here.

More speculatively, Apple is also one of the few companies positioned to market an ASIC for a specific transformer architecture which they could use for their Siri replacement.

(Google has on-device inference too but their business model depends on them not being privacy-focused and their GTM with Android precludes the tight coordination between OS and hardware that would be required to push SOTA models into hardware. )

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> Google has world-class research teams that have produced unbelievable models, without any plan at all on how those make it into their products beyond forcing a chat window into Google Drive. NotebookLM is a genuinely novel AI-first product. YouTube gaining an “ask a question about this video” button, this is a perfect example of how to sprinkle AI on an existing product. Extremely slow, but the obvious incremental…

> YouTube gaining an “ask a question about this video” button, this is a perfect example of how to sprinkle AI on an existing product. > Extremely slow, but the obvious incremental addition of Gemini to Docs is another example. These are great examples of insulting and invasive introductions of LLMs into already functional workflows. These are anti-features.

I guess I’m using the product wrong if I find them useful?

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Likewise the Intellimouse Pro is my favourite mouse. Sadly they seem to have discontinued it in favor of the Surface mouse which has atrocious ergonomics.

They also discontinued the ergo keyboard that I am using to type this. I'm very worried that when this keyboard goes out I won't have another option. There is a clone on the market, which I use at home, that so far has been pretty promising, but we'll see if it has they lasting power that this one does.

Kinesis makes a keyboard that's basically the Microsoft ergo layout but mechanical and you can remap the keys. I have one and like it. https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/mwave/

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Pedantic, but VS Code does not share a lineage with Atom, besides the fact that it is built on Electron (which was, admittedly, originally built for Atom.)

I meant Atom used to be the base, and now it's VSCode

VS Code was not based on Atom's code base.
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