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Re: GPT-5

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan »

henriquegodoy wrote: post #432

That SWE-bench chart with the mismatched bars (52.8% somehow appearing larger than 69.1%) was emblematic of the entire presentation - rushed and underwhelming. It's the kind of error that would get flagged in any internal review, yet here it is in a billion-dollar product launch. Combined with the Bernoulli effect demo confidently explaining how airplane wings work incorrectly (the equal transit time fallacy that NAS…

I suspect the vast majority of OpenAI's users are only using ChatGPT, and the vast majority of those ChatGPT users are only using the free tier.

For all of them, getting access to full-blown GPT-5 will probably be mind-blowing, even if it's severely rate-limited. OpenAI's previous/current generation of models haven't really been ergonomic enough (with the clunky model pickers) to be fully appreciated by less tech-savvy users, and its full capabilities have been behind a paywall.

I think that's why they're making this launch is a big deal. It's just an incremental upgrade for the power users and the people that are paying money, but it'll be a step-change in capability to everyone else.

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Post by nilsherzig »

simonw wrote: post #348

I had preview access for a couple of weeks. I've written up my initial notes so far, focusing on core model characteristics, pricing (extremely competitive) and lessons from the model card (aka as little hype as possible): https://simonwillison.net/2025/Aug/7/gpt-5/

> In my own usage I’ve not spotted a single hallucination yet

Did you ask it to format the table a couple paragraphs above this claim after writing about hallucinations? Because I would classify the sorting mistake as one

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Post by pseudosavant »

perdomon wrote: post #461

I've enabled GPT-5 in Copilot settings in the browser, but it's not showing up in VS Code. Anyone seeing it in VS Code yet?

That was my first thought - when do I get it in Copilot in VS Code? That is the place I consume the most tokens.

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Post by m4houk »

hodgehog11 wrote: post #474

Are others currently able to use GPT-5 yet? It doesn't seem to be available on my account, despite the messaging.

It's already available in Cursor for me (on the Ultra plan).

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Post by ipozgaj »

Tech aside (covered well by other commenters), the presentation itself was incredibly dry. Such a stark difference in presenting style here compared to, for example, Apple's or Google's keynotes. They should really put more effort into it.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

beeflet wrote: post #361
highfrequency wrote: post #331

It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…

Perhaps it is not possible to simulate higher-level intelligence using a stochastic model for predicting text. I am not an AI researcher, but I have friends who do work in the field, and they are not worried about LLM-based AGI because of the diminishing returns on results vs amount of training data required. Maybe this is the bottleneck. Human intelligence is markedly different from LLMs: it requires far fewer examp…

The bottleneck is nothing to do with money, it’s the fact that they’re using the empty neuron theory to try to mimic human consciousness and that’s not how it works. Just look up Microtubules and consciousness, and you’ll get a better idea for what I’m talking about.

These AI computers aren’t thinking, they are just repeating.

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Post by m4houk »

diggan wrote: post #111

Hmm, deprecating all previous models because GPT-5 is launched feels like a big move. I wonder how the schedule for the deprecation will look like.

For starters, GPT-4.5 just vanished from the menu for me. It was there before the announcement.

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Post by bertili »

demirbey05 wrote: post #50

Seems LLMs really hit the wall.

GPT5 doesn't add any cues to whether we hit the wall, as OpenAI only needs to go one step beyond the competition. They are market leaders and more profitable than the others, so it's possible are not showing us everything they have, until they really need to.

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Post by pseudosavant »

perdomon wrote: post #461

I've enabled GPT-5 in Copilot settings in the browser, but it's not showing up in VS Code. Anyone seeing it in VS Code yet?

This is what their blog post says: `GPT-5 will be rolling out to all paid Copilot plans, starting today. You will be able to access the model in GitHub Copilot Chat on github.com, Visual Studio Code (Agent, Ask, and Edit modes), and GitHub Mobile through the chat model picker. Continue to check back if you’ve not gotten access.`

I think "starting today" might be doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.

https://github.blog/changelog/2025-08-07-openai-gpt-5-is-now...

Re: GPT-5

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Post by mirekrusin »

highfrequency wrote: post #331

It is frequently suggested that once one of the AI companies reaches an AGI threshold, they will take off ahead of the rest. It's interesting to note that at least so far, the trend has been the opposite: as time goes on and the models get better, the performance of the different company's gets clustered closer together. Right now GPT-5, Claude Opus, Grok 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro all seem quite good across the board (ie the…

Diversity where new model release takes the crown until next release is healthy. Shame only US companies seem to be doing it, hopefully this will change as the rest is not far off.
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