If only, NVIDIA could use their enterprise solution on consumer hardware.
Nvidia won, we all lost
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Re: Nvidia won, we all lost
#482Re: Nvidia won, we all lost
#483Here’s my take on video cards in general. I love NVIDIA cards for all out performance. You simply can’t beat them. And until someone does, they will not change. I have owned AMD and Intel cards as well and played mainly FPS games like Doim, Quake, Crysis, Medal of Honor, COD, etc. all of them perform better on NVIDIA. But I have noticed a change.
Each year those performance margins seem to narrow. I paid $1000+ dollars for my RTX 4080 Super. That’s ridiculous. No video card should cost over $1000. So the next time I “upgrade,” it won’t be NVIDIA. I’ll probably go back to AMD or Intel.
I would love to see Intel continue to develop video cards that are high performance and affordable. There is a huge market for those unicorns. AMDs model seems to be slightly less performance for slightly less money. Intel on the other hand is offering performance on par with AMD and sometimes NVIDIA for far less money - a winning formula.
NVIDIA got too greedy. They overplayed their hand. Time for Intel to focus on development and fill the gaping void of price for performance metrics.
Re: Nvidia won, we all lost
#484Here’s my take on video cards in general. I love NVIDIA cards for all out performance. You simply can’t beat them. And until someone does, they will not change. I have owned AMD and Intel cards as well and played mainly FPS games like Doim, Quake, Crysis, Medal of Honor, COD, etc. all of them perform better on NVIDIA. But I have noticed a change.
Each year those performance margins seem to narrow. I paid $1000+ dollars for my RTX 4080 Super. That’s ridiculous. No video card should cost over $1000. So the next time I “upgrade,” it won’t be NVIDIA. I’ll probably go back to AMD or Intel.
I would love to see Intel continue to develop video cards that are high performance and affordable. There is a huge market for those unicorns. AMDs model seems to be slightly less performance for slightly less money. Intel on the other hand is offering performance on par with AMD and sometimes NVIDIA for far less money - a winning formula.
NVIDIA got too greedy. They overplayed their hand. Time for Intel to focus on development and fill the gaping void of price for performance metrics.
Re: Nvidia won, we all lost
#485Earlier quoted context omitted.
What I experienced is that AI is a nightmare on AMD in Linux. There is a myriad of custom things that one needs to do, and even that just breaks after a while. Happened so much on my current setup (6600 XT) that I don't bother with local AI anymore, because the time investment is just not worth it. It's not that I can't live like this, I still have the same card, but if I were looking to do anything AI locally with a…
I don't have much experience with ROCm for large trainings, but NVIDIA is still shit with driver+cuda version+other things. The only simplification is due to ubuntu and other distros that already do the heavy lift by installing all required components, without much configuration.
On Ubuntu, in my experience, installing the .deb version of the CUDA toolkit pretty much "just works".
Re: Nvidia won, we all lost
#486> With over 90% of the PC market running on NVIDIA tech, they’re the clear winner of the GPU race. The losers are every single one of us. I have been rocking AMD GPU ever since the drivers were upstreamed into the linux kernel. No regrets. I have also realized that there is a lot out there in the world besides video games, and getting all in a huff about it isn’t worth my time or energy. But consumer gotta consoooooo…
You are certainly right that this group has little spending self-control. There is no limit just about to how abusive companies like Hasbro, Nvidia and Nintendo can be and still rake in record sales. They will complain endlessly about the price of a RTX 5090 and still rush out to buy it. I know people that own these high end cards as a flex, but their lives are too busy to actually play games.
It's because it's part and parcel of their identity. Being able to play the latest games, often with their friends, is critical to their social networks.
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#487Earlier quoted context omitted.
From a business perspective, launching a game like Starcraft 2 at any time is a business catastrophe. There are obscure microtransactions in other Blizzard titles that have generated more revenue than Starcraft 2.
If SC2 was such a failure at any time, why bother with 3 expansions? I think the biggest factors involve willingness to operate with substantially smaller margins and org charts. It genuinely seemed like "Is this fun?" was actually a bigger priority than profit prior to the Activision merger.
I like games companies that create games for fun and story, rather than just pure profit.
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Also, like, I kind of want to play with these things, but also I'm not sure I want a computer that uses 500W+ in my house, let alone just a GPU. I might actually be happy to buy one of these things, at the inflated price, and run it at half voltage or something... but I can't tell if that is going to fix these concerns or they're just bad cards.
With 5080 using 300W, talking about 500W is a bit of an exaggeration, isn't it?
I'm talking about the 5090 which is 575W.
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#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I use Linux and have learned not to touch AMD GPUs The situation completely changed with the introduction of the AMDGPU drivers integrated into the kernel. This was like 10 years ago. Before then the AMD driver situation on Linux was atrocious. The open source drivers performed so bad you'd get better performance out of Intel integrated graphics than an expensive AMD GPU, and their closed source drivers were so poo…
I use the amdgpu driver and my luck has not been as good as yours. Can't sleep my PC without having it wake up to fill my logs with spam [0] and eventually crash. Then there is the (in)famous AMD reset bug that makes AMD a real headache to use with GPU passthrough. The card can't be properly reset when the VM shuts down so you have to reboot the PC to start the VM a second time. There are workarounds but they only wo…
I was under the impression that nvidia just didn't let consumer cards do GPU passthrough.
Re: Nvidia won, we all lost
#490Why was the title of this post changed long after posting to something that doesn't match the article title? This editorializing goes directly against HN Guidelines (but was presumably done by the HN team?)
Barbara Streisand requested it.