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Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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The AI is not paying for watching videos yet

Indeed, it's the advertisers who are paying for AI to watch videos....

Google already invests a tremendous amount of resources into identifying and preventing fraudulent ad impressions -- I don't see that changing much until AI is so cheap that it makes sense to run a full agent for pennies per hour. Sadly.

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The fact that so many feel the same way about this technology (I do too!) is an indictment of humanity, not the technology itself. We _could_ use this to empower humans, but many of us instinctively know that it will instead be used to crush the human spirit. The end result of this isn’t going to be an expansion of creative ability, it’s going to be the destruction of creative jobs and the capture of these creative m…

> The end result of this isn’t going to be an expansion of creative ability, it’s going to be the destruction of creative jobs and the capture of these creative mediums by a few large companies. I agree , but that's the negative. The positive will be that almost any service you can imagine (medical diagnosis, tax preparation, higher education) will come down to zero, and with a lag of perhaps a decade or two it will…

So the humankind was waiting for AI to bring down all costs to zero, good lord! I thought it was waiting for steam engine, penicillin, railroads, aviation, robotics, computers, nuclear energy, space flight to bring that forth!

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I tried Whisk to generate images which I then animated, thinking it would be using the newest model. But then I noticed that Veo 3 and Imagegen 4 are only usable through Flow, and only if you're on the most expensive plan. AI Studio also only shows Imagegen3 and Veo2 as media generating options. My main issue when trying out Veo 2 was that it felt very static. A couple elements or details were animated, but it felt u…

You can use imagen 4 in vertex ai. But no Veo 3.

Also Google is going to have to tread carefully, people in the entertainment industry are already AI hostile, and they dictate a surprising amount of public opinion.

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The fact that so many feel the same way about this technology (I do too!) is an indictment of humanity, not the technology itself. We _could_ use this to empower humans, but many of us instinctively know that it will instead be used to crush the human spirit. The end result of this isn’t going to be an expansion of creative ability, it’s going to be the destruction of creative jobs and the capture of these creative m…

> We _could_ use this to empower humans, but many of us instinctively know that it will instead be used to crush the human spirit. The end result of this isn’t going to be an expansion of creative ability, it’s going to be the destruction of creative jobs and the capture of these creative mediums by a few large companies. The same was said about the camera or photoshop.

The kind of argument which boils down to "the death of the human spirit is imminent, because it is never OK to stop where we are, and only a step forward is possible, because there are plenty steps already taken behind"

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And paying for my sofa to watch a unskippable 50s ad while I make a coffee.

Back in the day when everyone used to watch broadcast TV, and stations synchronised their add breaks, water consumption would spike with every add break.

The UK has a unique problem with demand spikes for electricity during commercial breaks, due to the British penchant for using high-power electric kettles to make tea. In the worst case, demand could rise and fall by gigawatts within a matter of minutes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_pickup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDAvewWfrA

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Are you independently wealthy enough to benefit from that or someone who should invest in suicide pills for themselves and their family if that day comes?

Some people haven't overcome their childhood desire to die or suffer so as to make the parents regret their decision not to buy that candy or take the puppy home. They imagine dismal future as a glorified way to suffer. Talk about cyberpunk - there's that sweet alluring promise to spend a whole life eating instant ramen sitting next to a window with a blinking neon sign and endless rain behind it, coding routinely to…

You know, I'd really prefer not to, but I have eyes and object permanence. Maybe we'll get the Iain Banks Culture future!

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There were smartphones before the iPhone. One could also describe the difference as "just a touchscreen".

The iPhone 1 featured "touch screen, GPS, camera, iPod, and internet access. Its software capabilities were a turning point for the smartphone industry" (random source: https://www.textline.com/blog/smartphone-history ). If you want to doubt that it was in fact a not a turning point you'd need to provide very strong arguments.

Also, the touchscreen was the type that unlike all previous touchscreens (except the ones made by a startup that Apple had bought) could detect touches at more than one screen location simultaneously.

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Older people on social networks are cooked. I mean in general, we are entering an age where making scams and spreading false news will be easily done with 10$ of credits.

Yeah i fear that too, my grandma is already sending me links of AI animals that she thinks is real, and the horrible/beautiful art of facebook memes/holiday cards, seems to be completely overtaken by AI. We know that full fake video of you with your own voice asking for something or even interacting on a video call is basically solved problem. Prime time to reestablish and confirm trusted channels with the people you…

Recently at a family dinner we established that any kind of unsolicited contact that falls outside typical conversation - Asking for money, sending money, pretty much anything with money - you must say the word that only people in our family would know.

Ironically, this would be a good application of AI, where the AI listens in on their calls, and will flag conversation that warrants the keyword being said.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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This demo video of Veo 3 on reddit, featuring a variety of characters talking in different scenarios and accents, is one of the most incredible AI demos I have ever seen: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1krmsns/wtf_ai_vid... Created by Ari Kuschnir

Calling it now. Someone will use AI to make the "AI Killed the Video Star" video. Probably the same guy that made this[1] and other masterpieces. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EICWYazyqu4

I thought you were going to link "Video Killed The YTMND Star" - which gives me quite the dose of nostalgia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6D9arrHiLE
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