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Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by driverdan »

Levitating wrote: post #86
tambourine_man wrote: post #73

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> This means you can't hover your mouse in the gaps between columns while you scroll to prevent videos autoplaying when moused over You can disable autoplay at https://www.youtube.com/account_playback , then uncheck "Video previews". It resets itself every 15 days or so, but at least one can have some peace in the meantime.

> It resets itself every 15 days or so Are you saying that YouTube just alters your preferences?

In addition to what others said, they gaslight users by regularly resetting blocked accounts from recommendations. They also lose your play history after a while and start showing old videos you've watched as never been viewed.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by homefree »

therein wrote: post #393
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #367

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So you don't buy Oreos, and think the best way to eat them is not to have them in the house. I agree. That's why I don't have TikTok on my phone. So why can't I keep YouTube Shorts disabled? I'm telling them I don't want it. If I'm the kind of person who doesn't keep Oreos in the house to avoid eating them, why would I go to a grocery store that insists on slipping a pack of Oreos into every third bag of carrots?

It all checks out if you recognize YouTube clearly doesn't consider the app and the website to be your turf. You are in their home, they have oreos all over the place and they will offer it to you over and over again. You'll ask if they have water, they'll bring it with a box of oreos. You'll ask where the bathroom is, and find an Oreo waiting for you by the sink in case you'd like to indulge.

This is the correct model.

If you want your own home you can use something like Urbit.

Generally in the web as it is, we are all serfs on other people’s computers.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by navigate8310 »

guiomie wrote: post #223
dcchambers wrote: post #58

I am BEGGING someone, anyone at Google/YouTube to let me permanently disable YouTube Shorts. I HATE Short form video content and no matter how many times I select "show me less of this" I still get them front and center when I open the app or website.

Atleast let me disable shorts on the TV app. I can't scroll thru my subscribed channels feed without being spammed with all the shorts, this makes content discovery awful and im just not using the app as much.

Please give this https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube a try

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by mvieira38 »

rozab wrote: post #46

For a long time the grid of videos on the homepage has been slightly misaligned. I imagine the different rows belong to different teams. This means you can't hover your mouse in the gaps between columns while you scroll to prevent videos autoplaying when moused over. I find the autoplay so annoying because it hides the thumbnail which was carefully designed to communicate why I should click on the video and replaces…

NewPipe is the better app by far in terms of usability, despite having no budget in comparison. It's impressive how far you can get by just not adding bs

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Post by greenchair »

wsc981 wrote: post #29
puttycat wrote: post #6

The YouTube abominations keep piling up: Vertical videos on a desktop, endless ads (thanks to the Chrome manifest change that disables decent adblockers), useless feed. I highly recommend installing an extension that hides the home feed and sidebar recommendations, which at least makes YT non-distracting again.

I think in (South-East) Asia the people like vertical videos for some reason. Seems how many people record videos on their phones - at least in Thailand.

Asian people like watching vertical videos on a desktop?

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Post by input_sh »

aargh_aargh wrote: post #261
codedokode wrote: post #77

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I notice that many short videos seem to be simply cuts from longer videos posted to promote them. So they were not made for short video section and just try to misuse short videos to increase long video visibility.

But there's no way to click from the short to the long video. I'd like to do that. It's someone else doing the cuts, presumably for their own benefit, rather than to promote the original.

Shorts creators can link back to the full video, assuming both are posted on the same channel. You can't link to someone else's video though.

Also, a channel that posts shorts exclusively needs like 30 million views to be monetized, you're infinitely more likely to reach that threshold creating compilation of cute cat videos than with your own original content (regardless of the niche). I'd be shocked if even 2% of channels earning money from shorts create any original content what so ever.

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Post by acaloiar »

shrx wrote: post #258
bunderbunder wrote: post #122

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Constantly. They also keep resetting the settings to not show shorts or video games in the feed. I suspect that the managers in charge of some of these features are lobbying for it as a way to artificially increase the engagement stats for their features, but spinning it as actually being good UX instead of a user-hostile move because it's important for "discoverability" or something like that.

First it was "hide shorts". Then it was "hide shorts for X days" (I think 30?). Now it is "show fewer shorts".

Those who disable watch history probably know this, but others probably don't -- when you disable watch history your "subscriptions" page effectively becomes your home page. And on your subscriptions page, shorts cannot be removed like on the actual home page. So if you disable watch history, you implicitly must enable shorts.

Like a relative commentor said -- a product manager on the "Shorts" team is doing a helluva job boosting their team's stats.

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Post by mrguyorama »

mvdtnz wrote: post #427
matsemann wrote: post #166

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What kills me with the autoplay (at least on mobile), is that the video continues from where it was when you click it. But the autoplay had no sound, and I probably didn't watch it closely. So I always have to scroll back to the beginning, as I've just now been put in the middle of a sentence a bit into the video. Especially for channels which actually gets straight to the point (like Numberphile) it's annoying. Such…

What's even more insane is that if you hover a video for 5 seconds it thinks you "watched" it and it goes into your watch history.

I found this "feature" triggers on videos I didn't even hover the mouse over.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by mirrorlake »

CryZe wrote: post #450
mirrorlake wrote: post #43

I quite like the 2x3 grid of videos. No complaints, actually.

It's 1.5x3 if you have a 21:9 screen. It's so bad.

Yeah, the Steam HW survey shows that 16:9 resolutions form a majority (60%+) of their users with 1080p + 4K, so it makes sense as a default design choice for a company that only wants to target one ratio.

As a former user of 16:10, I feel your pain, though.

Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by mrguyorama »

PaulHoule wrote: post #362
xp84 wrote: post #347

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The word "want" is the key there -- they have zero interest in what you 'want' to watch, they have every interest in what will compel you to watch for the longest time! Maybe a certain person wants to watch a few 2-minute cute cat videos, and subscribe to those exclusively. But research showed Google that those people's watch minutes per day can be tripled if you fill their homepage with "Trump did WHAT?" videos (or…

Short term yes, but long term it turns people away from YouTube. A year ago, I had a serious YouTube habit, once I replaced my trash Jellyfin server with a Plex server I can listen to my music collection on my phone anywhere… so no more music from YouTube. I got tired of asmongold and all his imitator gaming YouTubers, fell out of the habit of watching Ukraine warbloggers, etc. I saw other people who got into toxic r…

Gambling has been around forever. Hyper aggressive slot machines do nothing to dissuade addicts, and dark patterns on the web are the same. They are trying to build addiction, and addiction doesn't care that something hurts to do, you need it.

The few of us who go "ew" and recoil are vastly outnumbered by the billions who just watch.

Every complaint about ads on youtube is someone who can't even be bothered to download an adblocker before Chrome killed it. It was one click, but that didn't dissuade the vast majority of eyeballs.

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