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If you are doing remote learning and using AI to cheat your way through school you have obliterated any chance of fair competition. Cheaters can hide at home feeding homework and exams into AI, get a diploma that certifies all the cheating, then they go on to do the same at work where they feed work problems into an AI. Get paid to copy paste. But I have a feeling that if it's that easy to cheat through life then its…
To be clear the students almost certainly aren't using ChatGPT to write their thesis for them from scratch, but rather to edit and improve their bad first drafts.
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The solution is making all homework optional and having an old-school end of semester exam.
You can always give extra points for homework which then compensate from lacking in tests. If you get perfect points in test, well maximum grade. If less than perfect, you can up grade with those extra points. Fair for everyone.
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> Why should I hire you if an agent can do it ? An agent can't do it. It can help you like a calculator can help you, but it can't do it alone. So that means you've become the programmer. If you want to be the programmer, you always could have been. If that is what you want to be, why would you consider hiring anyone else to do it in the first place? > Spotify CEO stated on X that before asking for more headcount the…
So like arguably when people were not using calculators they made calculations by hand and there was a room full of people that did calculations. That’s gone now thanks to calculators. But it the analogy goes to an order of magnitude higher, now fewer people can « do » the job of many so less hiring maybe but not just on « do calculations by hand » but almost all fields where the use of software is required. Where wi…
Never in the history of humans have we been content with stagnation. The people who used to do manual calculations soon joined the ranks of people using calculators and we lapped up everything they could create.
This time around is no exception. We still have an infinite number of goals we can envision a desire for. If you could afford an infinite number of people you would still hire them. But Shopify especially is not in the greatest place right now. They've just come off the COVID wind-down and now tariffs are beating down their market further. They have to be very careful with their resources for the time being.
> - they did not learn much because LLM did work for them
If companies are using LLMs as suggested earlier, they will find jobs operating LLMs. They're well poised for it, being the utmost experts in using them.
> - there is no new jobs required because we are more productive ?
More productivity means more jobs are required. But we are entering an age where productivity is bound to be on the decline. A recession was likely inevitable anyway and the political sphere is making it all but a certainty. That is going to make finding a job hard. But for what scant few jobs remain, won't they be using LLMs?
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I've heard that's how studying is done in Oxford/Cambridge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutorial_system
The tutorial system is just for teaching, not grading. It does keep students honest with themselves about their progress when they’re personally put on the spot once a week in front of one or two of their peers.
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That's also how it's done in almost all French engineering schools. You get open book tests with a small amount of relatively difficult questions and you have 3-4 hours to complete. In some of the CS tests, coding by hand sucks a bit but to be honest, they're ok with pseudo code as long as you show you understand the concepts.
The European mind cannot comprehend take-home exams.
If you are doing remote learning and using AI to cheat your way through school you have obliterated any chance of fair competition. Cheaters can hide at home feeding homework and exams into AI, get a diploma that certifies all the cheating, then they go on to do the same at work where they feed work problems into an AI. Get paid to copy paste. But I have a feeling that if it's that easy to cheat through life then its…
Won't the AI just replace the workers outright if they can do all that ?
In my day, like (no exaggeration) 50 years ago, we were having the exact same conversation, but with pocket calculators playing the role of AI. Plus ca change...
1. During final exams, directly in front of professors: Check
2. During group projects, with potentially unaligned team-members: Check
3. By professors using "detection" selectively to target students based on prohibited groubds: Check
4. By professors for marking and feedback: Check.
And so, the problem is clearly the institutions. Because none of these are real problems unless you stopped giving a shit.
Good luck when you point out that your marked feedback is a hallucination and the professor targets you for pointing that out.