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Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by rendaw »

Almondsetat wrote: post #111
tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

>looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. LLMs are truly reaching human-like behavior then

Here though they're not replacing a random person, they're replacing _you_ (doing the search yourself). _You_ wouldn't look at the top X hits then assume it's the correct answer.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by labrador »

sshine wrote: post #466
labrador wrote: post #440

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Thank you for saying this. I recently heard that story "if you let one Nazi in your bar, pretty soon you have a Nazi bar"

Also, if you call everyone a nazi, all you have is nazi bars. I was called a nazi last week for driving a Tesla, and I have Jewish ancestry. The word hardly makes any sense.

Blame Elon Musk and his Nazi salutes and Hitler apologist retweets for that. It can't be much simpler to understand.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by wegfawefgawefg »

dataflow wrote: post #458
wegfawefgawefg wrote: post #392

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I can not believe this was voted down. It is simply an assertion of fact. Whether true or not, seems reasonable and most people would agree with it.

> I can not believe this was voted down. It is simply an assertion of fact. Whether true or not, seems reasonable and most people would agree with it. If it was voted down, I'm guessing it was because to the extent that it's a fact, it's trivially true, and there's nothing insightful about the defeatist take. It's possible to do more harm than good doing pretty much anything. And the world is littered with problems t…

consider the following hypothetical situation:

lets say your car tires pop.

Person A: "I will paint your car tires red. That will fix them."

Person B: "painting my flat car tires red wont fix them."

Person C: "well youre just being defeatest. we have to do something".

Person B: "..."

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by labrador »

hammock wrote: post #396
labrador wrote: post #321

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I'm positive there are great people working at X, xAI, Tesla and SpaceX who are suffering every day through no fault of their own, hoping that Musk will come to his senses. Tesla right now is an especially tragic case for those whose livelihood depended on it doing well.

Isn’t that all of us? Electric cars are a huge part of saving the planet for human habitability

Electric cars are doing fine. Sales are up. It's just Tesla that is going down.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by johnisgood »

tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

Yeah, this is why I almost never enable the search feature. Hopefully Claude (I have not tried) has a way of disabling it.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by sshine »

appleaday1 wrote: post #480
sshine wrote: post #466

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Also, if you call everyone a nazi, all you have is nazi bars. I was called a nazi last week for driving a Tesla, and I have Jewish ancestry. The word hardly makes any sense.

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I don’t respond well to peer pressure. It makes me sick to the stomach. Peer pressure from aggressive behaviour is ironically how Germany’s population got talked into committing genocide.

I’ll start doing what other people say for no good reason the day I switch off my brain.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by sshine »

labrador wrote: post #482
sshine wrote: post #466

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, if you call everyone a nazi, all you have is nazi bars. I was called a nazi last week for driving a Tesla, and I have Jewish ancestry. The word hardly makes any sense.

Blame Elon Musk and his Nazi salutes and Hitler apologist retweets for that. It can't be much simpler to understand.

I’m happy you’re not near my car.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by sshine »

wongarsu wrote: post #308
labrador wrote: post #304

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My disgust and hatred for Elon Musk prevents me from giving Grok a fair chance. I realize this is my psychological problem. I own it, but as far as I can tell, I'm not missing much.

Purely on its technical merits Grok is pretty good and fills a niche in the selection of AI agents. But I can absolutely understand not wanting to use an AI owned by somebody who makes Nazi salutes and is dismantling the US government.

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Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by johnisgood »

Tostino wrote: post #107
haswell wrote: post #88

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Are you arguing that these are equivalent actions? The entire web was built on the understanding that humans generally operate browsers, and robots.txt is specifically for scenarios in which they do not. To pretend that the automated reading of websites by AI agents is not something different…is quite a stretch.

I see it as very different. I the human want the data from that request. I am using a tool to get it for me. Should I not be able to execute curl to download a webpage because the "understanding that humans generally operate browsers"?

I agree. This came up in terms of copyright either, or who is pressing the shutter and who owns the copyright to the photo taken. I personally think that the copyright belongs to me, because I, a human, made the detailed prompt, the tool just generated it. Do I not own the copyright if I make something using Photoshop? As far as I know, I do. So, how is AI any different that needs human action (i.e. be prompted)? Because it is better than Photoshop? That is not a good argument, IMO.
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