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Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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The problem with Discord is that it doesn't allow for servers in the same way a protocol like IRC does. Some commenters have alluded to this. From a quick glance, revolt.chat doesn't allow for server creation either. Am I mistaken or is this pretty much a joke (Discord replacement with the only real benefit being a 'trust us bro, we're European' sort of promise to not do bad things)?

There is server creation in the sense that you can host the whole backend on your own domain: https://github.com/revoltchat/self-hosted/blob/master/compos...>.

Not sure if their own hosted offering has a "click to spin up new server" button. Probably not.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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So like Mastadon then. Every time I’ve looked into it, every server I’ve checked has been filled with furries and anime-avatars. I mean, I’m glad they’ve found a community where they feel at home, but it kinda makes it a hard pass for the rest of us ;)

Well, I guess it's better than the reddit alternatives that are full of communities who got banned from reddit.

Out of curiosity, I've just looked at the front page of lemmy.org, and its community seems virtually indistinguishable from reddit.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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I saw 100+ community force migrate from Telegram to Discord. Most of the people complained about UI/UX, me included. And Telegram is not even very good in that area. Normal people are not fond of Discord UI specifically, they just get used to it.

And do you think a Discord community force-migrated to Telegram wouldn't have their own UX complaints? This is gonna happen almost no matter what platforms you're talking about, people are used to their thing and don't like seeing it forcibly changed. > Normal people are not fond of Discord UI specifically, they just get used to it. Disagree. I think most people are pretty okay with it, maybe not in love with it, but…

I came over to Discord in January 2016, from a combination of TS3, Forums & Skype for the purposes of both online and personal gaming groups. It decimated all the competition in gaming spaces for voice chat, async text chat and sync text chat within 6 months. Every single guild or group moved over almost overnight. That should go to show how absolutely revolutionary Discord was, and that it was an actual, huge software innovation. People _loved_ the UX & UI. Users loved the chat and channel interfaces, admins loved the fairly easy to understand moderation tools. Its gotten a little less loved as the app has gotten less and less reliable, the VoIP quality has been reduced (especially for non-nitro boosted servers) and new, unwanted features are added. However, I don't understand how the core UI is bad. Its not puke or emoji ridden beyond what users make of it -- avatars, server icons & banners, role colours, emojis in channel names etc are all user defined. Everything else (beyond the shitty new features they rollout for 6 months then kill) is pretty standard contemporary electron app design, and honestly minimalist in some ways. It is certainly minimalist and easier to navigate compared to something like Element.

I think that HN users seem to not fundamentally understand the needs of online groups beyond what is necessary to carry out an asynchronous open source engineering project. Much of the "bells-and-whistles" that discord offers are _essential_ to both the day-to-day communication of these groups as well as to moderators. Element does not come fully replicate some core features offering an outright less stable experience. Slack/Teams are not accessible to private users. Telegram has even less features than Element/Matrix.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Weird, I have never noticed a single one of the issues you mention. There really isn't much I don't like about discord, though I wished threads worked more like Slack.

Funny. Every day at work, I lament that Slack's threads don't work like Discord's. What do you like about them?

I like that they are unobtrusive and low cost. Easy to spin off a small discussion without bothering others.

In discord, a thread becomes a big visible thing in the sidebar. More than a couple and you're annoying everyone on the whole server. Completely the opposite of what I want.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Haven't heard of any other platforms that use cartoons in the UI, actively associate with kids hobbies, and also make it one click to join active pedo grooming communities. "very good moderation" makes me believe you work for them because that is a laughable notion. I would bet that Big Balls swatting/SIM swapping/ddos community "the comm" still has dozens of discords that have been up for years

Any social app with one click to join communities (all of them) will fall under this. And how out of touch with teenagers are you that you think cartoons in the UI (whatever that means) are why they use it. What is a kids hobby? Gaming? You cannot call that a kids hobby.

Nah Facebook doesn't have swatting and pedo communities.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries/frameworks, languages, ai/ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers. I'm really hoping for an alternative. I'm always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.

> The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects.

The biggest selling points of Discord are 1) unified login and 2) phone access.

I, personally, consider these to be negatives. However, the majority of people do not.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Can we stop building communities in non-indexable locations? The death of forums and hence “google-ability” for problems and solutions is so depressing. The UX is worse in every way

Negative. Communities need not be findable by bots on the public web, in fact many should not be. Nobody has a right to read, index, analyze, or resell my conversations with friends. Anyone who wants to has plenty of options for posting in public forums, and the movement away from that behavior indicates a growing awareness of its problems.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

#488
The nicest thing about Discord is that there are so many servers for every topic you can imagine; the rather sad thing is that when a server goes away, all that valuable content is gone. It should really stop companies from using it or make sure there is a bot offloading/indexing the content.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

#489

I've accidentally typed https://revolut.chat/ instead https://revolt.chat/ . Apparently I wasn't the first one...

Revolut (the banking service) and Revolt are both British I believe... Seeing as Revolut has been around for a number of years, as a British person I wouldn't have chosen a name so close to Revolut (for any product).

Revolt isn't some random made up word. It seems ridiculous to class this as an obvious name collision.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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it sure beats mailing lists. look at LKML. I prefer discord over LKML any day. But some people prefer them over anything else. That's kind of my point, I don't have the time or energy to complain about this, I just want to talk to the right people. No one asked my preference, so in practical terms, it doesn't even matter.

> it sure beats mailing lists. look at LKML. You mean the the 31 years of simple text anyone can index or search using any search engine? How awful.

Few people care about going 31 years back, and indexing stuff themselves. Most users are casual users, and want to have their problem solved right now, with as little effort as possible.

Not that power users don't matter! They do, especially at places like LKML, where everyone is expected to be quite tech-savvy. But most users in the world are not nearly as tech-savvy. For them, zero-friction solutions are a clear win. even if not the only accessible way, despite any other shortcomings.

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