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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone reading stuff like this, read Ellul’s Technological Society instead. Optionally followed by “The Meaning of the City.” I haven’t read the manifesto and don’t plan to; it apparently cited Ellul a fair amount and Ellul seems like a saner guide.

Why not both? Ted Kaczynski was an important thinker whether or not you agree with his thesis and methods. ISAIF was published in newspapers and the sky didn't fall.

“Important thinker” is a stretch. Most actual philosophers of technology are far more coherent and knowledgeable.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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A few days ago, HN had "The pitchforks are coming for us plutocrats."[1] I wrote, no, otherwise the US wouldn't have elected a billionaire as a populist president. Maybe that was wrong. The US has historically been a safe space for the rich. There's never been anything like the French Revolution, or the Russian Revolution, or the Maoist revolution. The people in charge of the American Revolution were mostly well off.…

> There's never been anything like the French Revolution, or the Russian Revolution, or the Maoist revolution.

US culture has long actively reviled and denied power to aristocracy.

The story that the rich are in physical danger is used by Trump's supporters to create a paranoid victim mentality among the wealthiest and most powerful. (America - anyone can be a victim!)

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/luigi-mangione/ https://www.facebook.com/luigi.mangione.2

> Civilization VI Team > Fixed over 300 UI bugs (25% of UI bug count) using Lua language, Jira software, and Perforce version-control system

Jira and Perforce alone are enough to cause someone to snap

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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A few days ago, HN had "The pitchforks are coming for us plutocrats."[1] I wrote, no, otherwise the US wouldn't have elected a billionaire as a populist president. Maybe that was wrong. The US has historically been a safe space for the rich. There's never been anything like the French Revolution, or the Russian Revolution, or the Maoist revolution. The people in charge of the American Revolution were mostly well off.…

Unlikely. Here’s what will happen instead:

Corporations will beef up security and keep doing what they were doing before. Police and government will increase surveillance budgets, citing this event as reasoning. And no one will interpret this act of violence as anything other than a random event to prevent.

You don’t get structural change by extreme singular events. That’s not how it works.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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He gave the Unabomber’s manifesto four stars on Goodreads, and described Unabomber as a "political revolutionary". Excerpts from his review: "It’s easy to quickly and thoughtless write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies. But it’s simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out." "He was a v…

For anyone reading stuff like this, read Ellul’s Technological Society instead. Optionally followed by “The Meaning of the City.” I haven’t read the manifesto and don’t plan to; it apparently cited Ellul a fair amount and Ellul seems like a saner guide.

You should read it, It did not cite Ellul.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

What about those eye brows though?

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

Or the most obvious case of setup ever.

can be both killer's and police's setup too

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Valedictorian in high school, from a well-off family, studied computer science in college that too from a pretty good college, founded / involved-in a game dev club in college, had people around him refer to him as nice, also had familial relations to someone in a good post such as in his case in a state legislature.

He unfortunately sounds very similar to people like you and I here on Hacker News, rather than what we all had in mind about his possible persona.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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I find that the gun and silencer were 3D printed really quite fascinating (also maybe why people were saying the gun jammed -- less reliable?) I knew you could 3D print guns (not sure if the whole thing can be 3D printed.) But it would seem that most parts (including the ammo) can be easily moved. That would make it trivial to bypass firearm restrictions the world over? Though I imagine getting caught with a ghost gu…

The only parts that really need to be metal are the barrel and bolt to contain the burning of the powder, and springs. Although, you can get by with plastic barrel and bolt if your design is sufficiently strong, and you don't have to have non-manual reloading, obviating the need for springs. The silencer's important parts are simply pressure baffles that don't need to be metal (although it helps significantly).

In this case, the design was replicating that of a Glock 43 IIRC, which is already mostly plastic. Guns are modular of course, and so there's a part that's legally designated the firearm to avoid ship-of-Theseus problems. For the Glock that's the frame, which includes the handle. That part's made out of plastic (except for a metal plate that has the serial number and can be detected by metal detectors). Since the frame on the original gun is plastic, it's designed not to have much force put on it, so it's not a technically difficult 3d print either. In the US (federally; states may have further restrictions) it's not illegal to manufacture your own firearm as long as it's for your own use. All the other parts, like the barrel, trigger, etc (not the silencer though), are unregulated, so it's perfectly legal to 3d print your own or just buy them and have them shipped to your house. (There's also the concept of an "80% lower": at what point does a piece of metal become a gun? Generally it's held to be that before the gun's than 80% complete then it's just a piece of metal, so you can buy The Glock uses a tilting barrel system: the barrel and slide are joined by a set of lugs on the barrel that fit into recesses in the slide, and after the bullet is fired are pushed back together by the force of recoil. The slide slides on linear rails, but the barrel has a pivot, so eventually as the barrel and slide travel back together, the barrel will tilt out of the recesses in the slide and allow the slide to continue backwards, opening space between the barrel and slide for the previous round to be extracted and a new round to be loaded automatically. You can imagine that hanging a big heavy tube off the barrel in the form of a silencer can be detrimental to the working of this system. In fact, you're supposed to use a recoil booster to increase recoil while using a silencer on tilting-barrel pistols to ensure more reliable operation. It's unlikely that malfunctions were because any parts were 3d printed in this case.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think so, per article: He "became quiet and started to shake" when asked if he had recently been to New York, according to the criminal complaint filed in Pennsylvania. Being smart can lead to arrogance, which leads to stumbles. like carrying evidence, dining in public, etc.

I doubt he was arrogant. I think he was on the run and didn’t have any place to put away the evidence. Probably homeless this whole time. And had to go to get food at some point.

Probably hadn't really thought through the specifics of tossing evidence.

Bodies of water are popular for disposing of things, because it's a huge PITA to find things there. Imagine how hard it might be in a large local pond, and then multiply that in complexity for a rather big river. Or an inland sea like the Great Lakes. Don't even multiply for those; it's a stupidly big irrelevant number.

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