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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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The more I think about it, the more I am convinced developers will be the "first to go" when AGI takes over. Before bloggers and youtubers. Because programming is an activity that requires the least amount of "grounding to reality" among all human activities. We made sure of this with layers and layers of convenient abstraction. What about developers that code the AI systems? Well.. I am sure AGI will come from other…

Sticking to my prediction that lawyers will be first.

That's an interesting example. Lawyers, unlike software developers, as a group go out of their way to ensure that they'll need need and cannot be replaced by others or automation. They push for certain processes to require lawyers. We on the other hand are more eager to automate ourselves than anything else. Maybe that will boost or productivity and make us even more valuable and highly paid or maybe we'll end up unemployed. Fascinating contrast between the professions

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Robots are already successfully performing surgeries unassisted, despite a license being required in that field. I do think barred lawyers will have a role for quite a while, but it is plausible it shrinks to oversight.

What robot is performing what surgery unassisted?

Yeah, plus one on this one, extremely curious to hear as well.

I am aware that remote robot surgeries have been a thing for quite a bit of time, but this is the first time ever I am hearing about unassisted robot surgeries being a thing at all.

A follow-up question: if an unassisted robot surgery goes wrong, who is liable? I know we have a similar dilemma with self-driving cars, but I was under the impression that things are way more regulated and strict in the realm of healthcare.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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> the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs Google already does have this in Google Docs (and all their products)? You can ask it questions about the current doc, select a paragraph and ask click on "rewrite", things like that. Has helped me get over writer's block at least a couple of times. Similarly for making slides etc. (It requires the paid subscription if you want to use it fro…

Those look more like one-off prompts, and not a proper chat/collab with Gemini.

That's there too; see https://support.google.com/docs/answer/14206696 — you can click on the "Ask Gemini ⟡" and carry on a conversation, e.g. "summarize emails about " and use those to paste into the doc. (I haven't found all that much use for referencing other files though. But the "proper chat" is useful for saying things like "no actually I meant something more like: …" and carrying on.)

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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The more I think about it, the more I am convinced developers will be the "first to go" when AGI takes over. Before bloggers and youtubers. Because programming is an activity that requires the least amount of "grounding to reality" among all human activities. We made sure of this with layers and layers of convenient abstraction. What about developers that code the AI systems? Well.. I am sure AGI will come from other…

Mechanical Turks will be the first to go. More seriously, the output quality of LLMs for code is pretty inconsistent. I think there's an analogy to be made with literature. For instance, a short story generated by an LLM can't really hold a candle to the work of a human author. LLM-generated code can be a good starting point for avoiding tedious aspects of software development, like boilerplate or repetitive tasks. W…

> Mechanical Turks will be the first to go.

On the contrary, human annotation work is stepping up now because we create so many more prompts and want to test them.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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The more I think about it, the more I am convinced developers will be the "first to go" when AGI takes over. Before bloggers and youtubers. Because programming is an activity that requires the least amount of "grounding to reality" among all human activities. We made sure of this with layers and layers of convenient abstraction. What about developers that code the AI systems? Well.. I am sure AGI will come from other…

That thinking is driven by limited product imagination. The kind of apps that will be built in the next 5 years,are nowhere near what we have today. Developers will need to update their skillset, though.

It's not a fixed lump of work. Widening the road makes the traffic increase, not congestion decrease. Same with coding, if we could do more, we would.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Really? Jetbrains has their own AI? Their terms seem to indicate that they use 3rd party models. https://www.jetbrains.com/legal/docs/terms/jetbrains-ai/serv...

> Full Line code completion runs entirely on your local device without sending any code over the internet. (1) They are executed locally, and you can find the local model files if you look hard enough (2). (AI Assistant is different, costs extra and runs over the network; but you dont have to use it) [1] - https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/full-line-code-completio... [2] - https://gist.github.com/WarningImHack3r/2a…

I tried a bunch of things, and their local line-completion is so far the only AI that didn’t quickly annoy me enough to turn it off again.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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The more I think about it, the more I am convinced developers will be the "first to go" when AGI takes over. Before bloggers and youtubers. Because programming is an activity that requires the least amount of "grounding to reality" among all human activities. We made sure of this with layers and layers of convenient abstraction. What about developers that code the AI systems? Well.. I am sure AGI will come from other…

Sticking to my prediction that lawyers will be first.

Nah, the stakes are too high.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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The more I think about it, the more I am convinced developers will be the "first to go" when AGI takes over. Before bloggers and youtubers. Because programming is an activity that requires the least amount of "grounding to reality" among all human activities. We made sure of this with layers and layers of convenient abstraction. What about developers that code the AI systems? Well.. I am sure AGI will come from other…

Mechanical Turks will be the first to go. More seriously, the output quality of LLMs for code is pretty inconsistent. I think there's an analogy to be made with literature. For instance, a short story generated by an LLM can't really hold a candle to the work of a human author. LLM-generated code can be a good starting point for avoiding tedious aspects of software development, like boilerplate or repetitive tasks. W…

Yes, but don't dismiss the laws of scaling and the inability of ourselves to predict the future. Wait But Why did a great take on the AI leap.

Imagine that current AI is already curating and generating datasets for the next generation.

Also consider that what we have now is only possible because hardware capability increased.

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