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Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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You can create a new account. It's a poorly designed feature that degrades the user experience semi-permanently and with no recourse.

Is "recourse" a good pattern for preventing abuse and harassment? Do any other platforms implement "recourse?"

Being blocked by like "pmarca" forever is kind of silly.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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I do not side with the person who has been blocked, but it is very obvious to me that nothing in the world would prevent them from seeing my public posts

Why? For me it's the opposite. "Public" is a label for a specific type of audience - everyone with access to my feed/timeline (as opposed to a subset like friends, followers etc). If I block someone, they no longer have access to my timeline.

Okay, but you are aware that "public" means everyone? e.g. the blocked persons friend or frankly second account?

What you want is a list of friends that you share your posts too, but then you wouldn't need social media if you weren't talking to strangers.

> If I block someone, they no longer have access to my timeline.

Yeah and I instantly think "what if they create a new account" and your whole protection instantly fails.

Blocking is barely good enough so famous accounts dont publicly mock you with all of their followers.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Having worked at a fairly prominent social media company, that is not why social media platforms have block functionality. Mute, functionality, yes, absolutely. Blocking is typically a much stronger remedy, aimed at curtailing targeted harassment.

Having worked with multiple online public discussion forums / media over the decades, that is precisely what blocking / muting / ignoring is for: the digital equivalent of plugging your ears. Don't want to hear an account you feel is harassing you? Good news: you don't need to! The functionality you're describing, on the other hand, opens the door to trollish abuse like reply-and-ban-responses. In what other public,…

> In what other public, online discussion forum format can anybody without admin powers, arbitrarily and unilaterally ban others from publicly replying to public posts? That idea sounds insane to me.

I mean, Facebook and Twitter have both worked this way for years. Arguably that constitutes most of social media for the last decade.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Having worked at a fairly prominent social media company, that is not why social media platforms have block functionality. Mute, functionality, yes, absolutely. Blocking is typically a much stronger remedy, aimed at curtailing targeted harassment.

Having worked with multiple online public discussion forums / media over the decades, that is precisely what blocking / muting / ignoring is for: the digital equivalent of plugging your ears. Don't want to hear an account you feel is harassing you? Good news: you don't need to! The functionality you're describing, on the other hand, opens the door to trollish abuse like reply-and-ban-responses. In what other public,…

> In what other public, online discussion forum format can anybody without admin powers, arbitrarily and unilaterally ban others from publicly replying to public posts? That idea sounds insane to me.

Regardless of all your other arguments here, the change being made to twitter here does nothing to prevent that. Blocking a user still prevents them from interacting with your posts in any way. Now they can just see the post without being able to reply to it. So I'm not exactly sure what your point is.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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post #377

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The point of blocking is to prevent harassment, no? No, the point is "I don't like this person for whatever reason so I don't want to see their posts". "I don't want this person to see my public posts" can be done by making an account private, or not posting the posts publicly. Otherwise it opens the door to trollish behavior like reply-and-block-to-prevent-retort. To stop harassment, reach out to the platform, assum…

> can be done by making an account private, or not posting the posts publicly but not the criteria where you _want_ other people to see your posts publicly. aka, the ask is to allow individuals to "excommunicate" a particular user, not just blocking. I'm glad, tho, that twitter does not allow this. I think having this feature allows for echo chambers...(tho, this is currently already true so may be it's moot...?)

> I'm glad, tho, that twitter does not allow this.

It does though? That is exactly what blocking does both before and after this change.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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On reddit, people use it to pretend to "win" arguments by appearing to get the last word (post a reply then immediately block).

It's the same on HN. If you say something controversial with a conclusion people dislike but debatable it will be disproven then downvoted. If the undesirable comment can be greyed out or the writer discredited they'll allow the comment to stand, smugly declaring a public victory. However if it can't be disproven and you actually convince some people, it will be flagged. And maybe even some people stalk your account…

So you don't see any problem in yourself? Only in other people?

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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The point is they separated all kids from all families and did not track the families. Crossers suspected of human trafficking were always separated. This policy was based on the racist garbage assumption that most of the people filing through were criminals. Which is proven false. It was a humanitarian crisis in itself.

Yet the human trafficking is worse now. The human suffering is worse now for policy and political reasons. AND, there are kids in cages now. AND, that policy started under Obama. Is the adminstration inviting more migration or is it saying "don't come"? It's a disorganized human disaster.

What are you basing your talking point on? Immigration is the lowest it's been since covid when no one wanted to come here. I already explained, protective custody started only when children immigrated unaccompanied. So, every kid was put in a cage in Trump's plan -- ripped from their parents custody regardless, because of the racist premise that immigrants are evil. If you can't acknowledge the difference between an unaccompanied minor and a family immigrating, I'm beginning to think you are not discussing this in good faith.

Also, immigration is as low as when Trump was botching covid because Harris improved root causes in Central and South America. She helped negotiate a bill endorsed by Border Patrol that would have put 1500 more agents at the border which very much would have helped. Trump called his buddies in Congress and killed it so he could run on it instead of fixing it. He actively chose more human trafficking for his own political benefit.

Trump is a fraud.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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post #60

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This whole X debacle has fragmented the microblogging universe which is actually a good thing. TruthSocial and X have become right-wing staples. Threads seems to be full of positivity right now. Mastodon for the techies and niche communities. I've actually started exploring other sane places of community gathering like Reddit and oddly enough YouTube comments. As Karpathy recently commented, the YouTube comments sect…

> I've actually started exploring other sane places of community gathering like Reddit What sane subreddits have you found?

My local city's subreddit is just full of people sharing interesting things. It's the first thing I actually look forward to reading. I'm in a number of tech subreddits and personal hobby ones that are all just full of signal vs. noise/toxicity

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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I think X is still really great and it's even better now that you can finally pay to have no ads (and verified means verified instead of 'friends of a twitter employee'. It does require some effort to curate a worthwhile feed though (and you have to be mindful to not get sucked into junk/avoid the for you tab).

I somewhat agree that it is still great. I do not agree that it is better because you can pay or be verified, but my feed is okay

The option to not have ads seems strictly better to me.

I would like more controls to require unverified accounts to need approval before they can follow me (there's some low hanging fruit leveraging this sort of thing to fight back against the bots)

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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I somewhat agree that it is still great. I do not agree that it is better because you can pay or be verified, but my feed is okay

The option to not have ads seems strictly better to me. I would like more controls to require unverified accounts to need approval before they can follow me (there's some low hanging fruit leveraging this sort of thing to fight back against the bots)

Almost none of the people I engage with have a blue checkmark, I just checked. If anything it is a red flag
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