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Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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That's an impressive supply-chain hack. Spend years showing how insecure modern telecom devices are and scare your enemy into going old-school, receive-only. Set up a shell company to sell pagers to your enemy's shell company. Give them devices implanted with a small explosive charge pointed inward, knowing they will be worn around the waist most of the time. Hack the backend server, send a coordinated page to all th…

> You have to hand it to them Given the context and peculiar choice of words, this reminds me of a classic @dril tweet https://x.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?s=46

TBH, I would "hand it to" any group who pulled off this particular attack, even ISIL.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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If we try to do what we are best at here at HN, let’s focus the discussion on the technical aspects of it. It immediately reminded me of Stuxnet, which also from a technical perspective was quite interesting. I already wonder if this was anything that was planted in the devices perviously, or if the ones responsible had similar devices, and managed reverse engineer them and craft a payload to them, that could be sent…

If it's basically a remotely controlled IED via a public communication network, then there's nothing technically interesting about that, really. But the aspect of some supposedly civilized state staging a mass terror attack via a remotely controlled IEDs, putting suddenly thousands of people, many of them civilians (yes, Hezballah are also civilians, because they're a major political party in Lebanon) into hospital,…

>Hezballah are also civilians, because they're a major political party in Lebanon

That's an interesting take. Are you saying hamas are also civilians because they're the major political party in gaza?

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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That's an impressive supply-chain hack. Spend years showing how insecure modern telecom devices are and scare your enemy into going old-school, receive-only. Set up a shell company to sell pagers to your enemy's shell company. Give them devices implanted with a small explosive charge pointed inward, knowing they will be worn around the waist most of the time. Hack the backend server, send a coordinated page to all th…

> minimal casualties outside of your enemy.

"Thousands injured." I'm not convinced it was as super-targeted as you claim.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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This seems like it would have the potential for a lot of collateral damage due to the possibility that modified pagers might enter general distribution. That is to say, how do they insure that a given shipment of pagers are only going to Hezbollah as opposed to some of them going to people like aid workers?

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If you aren't targeting occupied residences with the JDAM (like Israel does through the Where's Daddy? program) then feasibly you could end up with less civilian attrition using the JDAMs. Distributed fragmentation explosives with no fire control system are arguably more dangerous than a direct-attack munition targeting a military installation.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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If we try to do what we are best at here at HN, let’s focus the discussion on the technical aspects of it. It immediately reminded me of Stuxnet, which also from a technical perspective was quite interesting. I already wonder if this was anything that was planted in the devices perviously, or if the ones responsible had similar devices, and managed reverse engineer them and craft a payload to them, that could be sent…

I wonder what Israel did to ensure that only legitimate targets were harmed by the sabotaged pagers.

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Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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That's an impressive supply-chain hack. Spend years showing how insecure modern telecom devices are and scare your enemy into going old-school, receive-only. Set up a shell company to sell pagers to your enemy's shell company. Give them devices implanted with a small explosive charge pointed inward, knowing they will be worn around the waist most of the time. Hack the backend server, send a coordinated page to all th…

> You have to hand it to them -- it's a clever strategy with minimal casualties outside of your enemy

I agree it’s clever, but there are reports now of thousands wounded. Feels like a lot of collateral risk, if these people who were targeted were out and about (grocery shopping, bank, etc.)

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Looks like a hardware supply chain attack: https://goachronicle.com/hezbollah-members-pagers-exploded-i... >>GoaChronicle through its intelligence network has learned that Israeli intelligence successfully intercepted a shipment of pager batteries that had been ordered from B&H Photo. The order was placed from Lebanon. Acting on a confirmed tip, the intelligence agency seized the shipment and covertly modified the ba…

> B&H Photo

Okay, that pretty much guarantees that somebody at the Goa Chronicle fell hook, line, and sinker for a bit of internet satire.

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It would also appear that the good folks at the Goa Chronicle failed to check a Yiddish-English dictionary.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move, but I can't help but wonder about its long-term consequences. Although it was aimed at harming Israel's adversaries, third-party countries may now hesitate to involve Israel in their supply chains. There's also the risk that other major producers could replicate this tactic, potentially leading to further escalation in the region or be…

> From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move From The Guardian [1]: > Eight killed and 2,750 wounded Was that a clever move if you're killing "only" 8 potential adversaries? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/17/middle-ea...

Idk who exactly was hit but losing a hand will definitely hurt ones ability to fight.
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