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Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by philwelch »

pavlov wrote: post #361
philwelch wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here’s reporting from MIT Technology Review, a bastion of far-right conspiracy theories: https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/10/19/1010646/campaign... Operation Warp Speed was a signature effort of the Trump administration. As a result, the claim that the vaccine was being “rushed out without sufficient clinical trials” was made by just about all of Trump’s critics.

Nine months from formulating the vaccine to a successful Phase 3 trial is record speed. There’s no way the vaccine was held up to somehow politically hurt the president. I’m a Trump critic and I was happy with the priority given to Operation Warp Speed. It’s the only thing he did right during the pandemic. But a lot of the MAGA crowd are anti-vaxxers, so he’s been trying to distance himself from the successful vaccin…

The clinical trials were all done well before the election, and the FDA could have issued the emergency use authorizations in October, but they held off for a few weeks under the explicit political pressure discussed in the story I mentioned.

When it comes to “anti-vaxxers”, a lot of people, including both Biden and Harris, were outspokenly skeptical of any vaccine that would have been approved under a Trump administration (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/05/kamala-harris-trump...), so frankly this is largely an artifact of political polarization.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by shufflerofrocks »

hnburnsy wrote: post #470
shufflerofrocks wrote: post #404

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I use revanced, smarttube, and yt-dlp. but I also have premium, because it is an exceptional service. It's about 2 things 1. the principle. You get something, you pay for it. 2. the practicality. Youtube cannot run on fumes. It needs to generate funds from somewhere If everyone decides to not take premium, it only incentivises youtube to harvest your data for a profit (yes, they're already doing it but that's not the…

I didn't mind the ads on YT but this year the unskippable ads on TV platforms is abusivel, eg., a 20-30 seconds ad(s) for a 1.5 minute video. Ive seen unskippable breaks of up to 200 seconds with 5-8 advertisers in some long form YT vidoes. YT claims the breaks are less frequent but I dont beliveve it. That was it and I side loaded STN. I feel bad for content creators, but I let my favorite ones know about it.

I agree. That is quite painful and is obviously motivated to force people towards premium, which I highly disagree with. I think such actions should be regulated though I don't know if that can legally happen.

>I feel bad for content creators, but I let my favorite ones know about it.

Same. Sometimes I try to support my fav ones with a nominal patreon subscription whenever I discontinue my premium.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by johnnyanmac »

ndriscoll wrote: post #478
johnnyanmac wrote: post #477

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Not quite AR because the loss isn't perceivable for hardware ads. No one will come to a billboard and reasonably say "how many people look at this space"? No one can say outside of metrics on traffic. You can track a bunch of metrics for software and perceive ad blockers, so the loss is more explicit. >You'd be crazy to consider running it as some bizarre form of payment. I wont say reality isn't crazy, especially th…

The technology is basically there for signage to track who looks at it (maybe not billboards, but that's a resolution thing). In any case, why would I care about how people who are trying to scam me set up their business deals? If I don't run their script, they didn't "lose" anything. Their malware was never allowed to run on my machines in the first place. They failed to steal something from me.

Perhaps. It'd fall under another cost benefits analysis. I imagine it's not worth the cost. Software scales elegantly, unlike hardware, so it's another area where the metaphor breaks apart.

>why would I care about how people who are trying to scam me set up their business deals?

1. Because you are spending much of your energy and time getting around them. Because by silent consensus people would rather consume ads than pay for their content. Keep your friends close...

2. Because it's an indirect contract. I don't care if you don't care, but I'd at least wish people would be honest and admit that they aren't in some moral high horse for evading such a contract. People get so pompous as if they are combatting the behemoth by taking 10 seconds to download a program.

The house always wins. We're allowed to steal because the cost to catch us is less than the cost to lock the doors. And the company is profitable anyway. The main downside to this is similar to hardware: pricing is a bit more expensive because stores expect X% theft/defects/refunds. I'm sure the same thing happens where content creators get paid a bit less, and YT premium costing a bit more to offset adblock users.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by latexr »

lchengify wrote: post #73

Was shocked to hear this news. I worked for Google years ago but I was in the NYC office, so we didn't run into the YouTube folks much. Opinions about YouTube may be mixed here on HN, but it is objectively one of the most successful businesses in tech or media to emerge in the past 15 years. If it weren't buried inside Alphabet, Youtube would be worth on the order of $400 billion, more than Disney and Comcast combine…

> objectively

“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

What makes a business successful and what makes a good product are both highly subjective.

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Post by rldjbpin »

as a "youtuber" (yet to paid for their videos), SW was from my memory the only public leadership face of youtube. being ignorant to her role in the parent company, i like many directed all of our frustrations of the platform at her.

definitely miss that now after the switch back to the faceless leadership, and saddened by the loss. condolences to the family.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by gspetr »

pavlov wrote: post #123
TMWNN wrote: post #102

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>Opinions about YouTube may be mixed here on HN Who? Who has a negative opinion about YouTube? The occasional "My kids watch too much of it" != "mixed opinions" about the site in general.

YouTube’s algorithm feeds increasingly radicalizing content to young people. It makes celebrities of people like Andrew Tate and is a primary enabler of fringe belief bubbles. Any time someone posts a YouTube link to a political discussion, it’s guaranteed to be the worst nonsense that pries on people who “do their own research.” (No matter if they’re left or right on the political spectrum, there’s endless junk on Y…

> It makes celebrities of people like Andrew Tate

Legacy Media made celebrities out of people far worse than Tate decades before Youtube: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Mesrine

Media's propensity to do so has been lampooned before as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Born_Killers

Tagline: "Media made them superstars"

> and is a primary enabler of fringe belief bubbles.

Oh? It's not like anyone's ever seen conspiracy theory programs on TV before Youtube. Heck, if someone re-rendered some of those with AI to use Alex Jones' voice, even his viewers might not be able to tell the difference.

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Post by octodog »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #231
AbstractH24 wrote: post #222

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By and large overdose is a result of irrational thinking, or misguided attempts to apply logic. So it doesn’t make sense to make judgements about or apply ration to the drugs someone ODs on. Also, it doesn’t seem so weird for someone to try and mix uppers and downers. And those are all commonly abused drugs. For those reasons, I can only assume this comment was a poor attempt at sarcasm and/or humor.

Cocaine and Xanax is a strange combination. I have never heard of their mixing before.

They typically aren't taken together at literally the same time. It will be coke early in the night and then eventually xanax to get them to sleep because they are so wired.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by Sammi »

hnburnsy wrote: post #470
shufflerofrocks wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use revanced, smarttube, and yt-dlp. but I also have premium, because it is an exceptional service. It's about 2 things 1. the principle. You get something, you pay for it. 2. the practicality. Youtube cannot run on fumes. It needs to generate funds from somewhere If everyone decides to not take premium, it only incentivises youtube to harvest your data for a profit (yes, they're already doing it but that's not the…

I didn't mind the ads on YT but this year the unskippable ads on TV platforms is abusivel, eg., a 20-30 seconds ad(s) for a 1.5 minute video. Ive seen unskippable breaks of up to 200 seconds with 5-8 advertisers in some long form YT vidoes. YT claims the breaks are less frequent but I dont beliveve it. That was it and I side loaded STN. I feel bad for content creators, but I let my favorite ones know about it.

I pay for Youtube Premium. I never see this, and I don't understand how suffer like this. You don't have to. I also use Revanced on mobile.
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