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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by pjmlp »

wheresmyshadow wrote: post #208
whalesalad wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime Text 3 is still one of my favorite editors. I use VSCode lately because of its excellent "Remote SSH" integration - but when it comes to latency sublime has it beat. Zed does not feel fast on my machine, which is a 13900K/128gb ram. It is running in xwayland though, so that could be part of the problem. It feels identical to vscode.

Sublime Text gang, raise up. I was always a fan of Sublime Text and I moved away from it once because VSC felt more "hassle-free". The extensions just worked, I didn't need to go through endless JSON files to configure things, I even uncluttered its interface but at the end of the day I returned to good old Sublime Text. Now with LSPs it requires way less tinkering with plugins. I only wish it had just a little bit m…

It is hard, when so many in our industry are cheapstakes and don't want to pay for their tools, like in every other profession.

They rather suffer with VSCode than pay a couple of dollars for Sublime Text.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by _rwo »

sauercrowd wrote: post #98

Cool to see a new editor in the arena with a lot of resources behind it, but I'm trying to find the selling point besides "it's really quick". Great feature but there's a lot more stuff I need for a truly outstanding editor, what are the novel pieces? The bar is ridiculously for editors (vim & emacs configurability, vscode just works, jetbrains can do it all) - what will/does it bring to the table to compete?

> besides "it's really quick"

I can see the appeal, as the demo looks really smooth; then again, I'm a terrible slow developer, so personally I find saving few ms here and there irrelevant to my daily workflow

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by hnarn »

oneshtein wrote: post #477
blub wrote: post #459

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macOS for example checks the crypto signatures of downloaded apps, so it’s much better than randomly executing code from the internet. I think even Windows does this nowadays.

Linux distributions are doing this for 30 years.

Yes, if the script you're running adds a repository and uses the native package manager, which is not always the case.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by ktosobcy »

I installed zed a couple of days ago, tried it for a Java project. It was soooo bare-bone that it vanished from the drive shortly after.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, I got java/maven plugins but there is no XML highlighting. Java does have highlighting but that's it... OH, and and I installed it this time and I noticed "downloading json-language-server"... (it was there before probably but didn't notice)... like WTF - didn't even ask if I want to... utterly rubbish experience.

For a simple text editor I prefer BBedit on mac, which is native and blazing fast. And for something slightly more complex I usually end up with `code ` to quickly edit it...

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by hnarn »

lyu07282 wrote: post #449
fortyseven wrote: post #447

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Versus what? Everything you install involves trust at some point.

Obviously most distributions provide package managers that should be used for unified automated update mechanisms and gpg signing. Superior to curl | sh in every way.

It's not uncommon that the curl | sh method actually, among other things, detect what distro you're running and add the repos before installing via the package manager, so in the end it depends on what the script actually does. Atuin does it well for example: https://docs.atuin.sh/guide/installation/ -- and offers other options (as you should).

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by rouxz »

Ygg2 wrote: post #473
j1elo wrote: post #263

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I'm on the same camp, but in the end it turns out we were not putting it to the actual, real, hard-world test. VSCode is very fast for me, when I open it in the morning and just starting my day . But once I've opened the main project and 7 support library's projects, and I'm in a video-call on Chrome sharing my screen (which is something that eats CPU for breakfast), and I'm live-debugging a difficult to reproduce sc…

> In summary: our modern computer's sheer power are camouflaging poor software performance I somewhat disagree. Features sell the product, not performance[1], and for most of the software development you could count on the rising CPU tide to lift all poorly performing apps. But now the tides have turned to drought and optimizing makes a hell of a lot of sense. [1] They are more of a negative sell and relative to othe…

performance is a feature.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by hnarn »

vondur wrote: post #148

Surprised they didn't make it a FlatPak. Probably would anger some, but it would work with most Linux distributions.

Is there anything stopping anyone from making it a flatpak and maintaining it? I'm personally not surprised that they're reluctant to take on more maintenance responsibility than necessary.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by interactivecode »

worthless-trash wrote: post #428
Aeolun wrote: post #389

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Have to agree on the VCS story. I’d switched over to using Zed more or less permanently, but I eventually moved back because I kept having to open Intellij to resolve conflicts.

As I don't use either, can't you just open the file and look for >>>> and <<<< and resolve them in whatever editor you need ? or do these editors do something else that helps with merge conflicts ?

yes, jetbrains editors are particually good at resolving merge conflicts. They also have a magic button to do all the obvious conflicts automatically.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by BossingAround »

Love it. My VSCode takes 3GB of RAM and that's a single window with like 5 files open at one time. I've long been looking for a good-enough replacement (though I don't think I'll be able to leave debugpy for a while)

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Post by laughing_snyder »

ktosobcy wrote: post #484

I installed zed a couple of days ago, tried it for a Java project. It was soooo bare-bone that it vanished from the drive shortly after. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, I got java/maven plugins but there is no XML highlighting. Java does have highlighting but that's it... OH, and and I installed it this time and I noticed "downloading json-language-server"... (it was there before probably but didn't notice)... like…

Zed does not support Java (see https://zed.dev/docs).
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