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Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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joenot443 wrote: post #458
yread wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What there are still people who don't install Voidtools' Everything on all Windows PCs and assign it a global shortcut? Since I have it I don't even bother organizing stuff

Does anyone know of a similar tool for macOS? I'd gotten really comfortable with a Ctrl+Alt+S binding on Windows for Everything and miss it these days on macOS.

Spotlight?

There's HoudahSpot [1] for something a little more advanced. Third party launchers like Alfred [2] can also perform file searches.

[1] https://www.houdah.com/houdahSpot/

[2] https://www.alfredapp.com/

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by neonsunset »

ficklepickle wrote: post #477
mardifoufs wrote: post #475

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So the asp.net thing I highlighted isn't true? I'm sure the issue isn't that bad, but it sure is weird to claim that the naming wasn't horrible. Like, surely you could agree that the naming was much worse than it should've been?

It seems they identify so closely with dotnet that any perceived criticism is taken as a personal slight. It's the only thing that explains such a rabid response to a reasonable observation.

I don't identify with something that is just a tool (although one of the best ones). What does piss me off however is when people perpetuate false facts, straight up lie about arbitrary matters, are incapable of changing their mind when facts change and when disagreed with, resort to personal attacks.

This can be seen through other issues in the industry but is particularly felt in bad teams - social cohesion resides on a set of commonly agreed upon beliefs within a group and the worse the team is the more such beliefs are at odds with reality, and all I've been seeing in the past year is HN slipping more and more into this when it comes to programming.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by wvenable »

geophph wrote: post #467
AdamH12113 wrote: post #229

Billions of dollars to cram "AI" down our throats, but they can't be bothered to get Excel back up to the level of quality and performance it had 20 years ago.

Still blows my mind that, in the year 2024, it is still unable to open two workbooks with the same name

It would break the VBA API.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by papichulo2023 »

nvtop wrote: post #148
drevil-v2 wrote: post #87

Being the designated "tech" person for my extended family and friends circle, I don't think I could recommend this to any of them because of the privacy nightmare. At least with Apple you have a single vendor who is vertically integrated and makes a huge song and dance about data privacy. Even if you discount their PR and marketing spin, IMHO you are still miles ahead of the likes of Microsoft + (pick one) HP, Asus,…

The whole point of NPU-enabled devices is to run models locally, so they your data never leaves your device. This is a huge privacy win.

The whole point is making the consumers pay the cost of running LLMs (both in hardware and power), not your privacy, they will still get your data to train better models.

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

gigel82 wrote: post #184
cjk2 wrote: post #143

If the following does not happen in 2 years I will eat my hat: They will have performance problems. They will have compatibility problems. They will have poor repairability and zero repair network and support. The software will be abandoned and completely useless within 18 months. They will fail very early but just outside a standard 1 year warranty. This will be a lot of e-waste. Regulatory or national bodies will s…

Wait, are you the other guy that bought a Windows Surface RT? :) We should make a club.

I'd join, but Metro Internet Explorer crashes whenever I try to message, and the tablet battery won't last me the trip to the club...

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Post by guiambros »

isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

Not much has changed in 18 years...

Microsoft Re-Designs the iPod Packaging - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXnJraKM3k

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by pseudosavant »

delusional wrote: post #18

The AI is the least interesting part of this announcement. Microsoft is giving ARM another try with a special branding that's supposed to guarantee some level of performance and quality. That's possibly huge news.

Unfortunately, even though I wish I could get an M4 (or equivalent) ARM SoC in a PC, it is very unlikely that these chips are going to live up to the hype. Qualcomm has a bad track record of overstating and cherry-picking benchmarks.

All of their claims so far have been both impressive, and very squishy. Microsoft's own messaging around performance and battery life for their Surface devices was also unusually squishy. And I am a huge Surface Pro fan that would love nothing more than a fanless AND fast ARM Surface Pro.

I live in San Diego, and know countless Qualcomm employees, none of them give a shit about anything other than modems really. The rest of the SoC is just something to push 5G. They care as much about CPUs/SoCs as Intel did about 5G modems.

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Post by pseudosavant »

mmcnl wrote: post #332
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lenovo has been selling a Qualcomm laptop, the Thinkpad x13s, for several years already with questionable at best Linux support so I wouldn't expect the new ones to be much better.

But that's only one device. This is an entire generation of laptops all running the exact same chip.

It isn't so much about the chip but that there are almost no standards for how things should work when compared to a PC. Almost every PC boots the same. Almost no ARM device boots like another.

There has only ever been 1 or 2 ARM SoCs for Windows for the last 10 years. It didn't make Linux support on them easy.

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