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Post by gnobbler »

ArchitectAnon wrote: post #456

I think the thing that most perturbs me about AI is that it takes jobs that involve manipulating colours, light, shade and space directly and turns them into essay writing exercises. As a dyslexic I fucking hate writing essays. 40% of architects are dyslexic. I wouldn't be surprised if that was similar or higher in other creative industries such as filmmaking and illustration. Coincidentally 40% of the prison populat…

You're entitled to your opinion but this will open up a world of possibilities to people who couldn't work in these fields previously due to their own non-dyslexia disability. Handless intelligent people shouldn't lose out because incumbents don't want to share their lane.

Re: Veo

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Post by alt227 »

gnobbler wrote: post #481
ArchitectAnon wrote: post #456

I think the thing that most perturbs me about AI is that it takes jobs that involve manipulating colours, light, shade and space directly and turns them into essay writing exercises. As a dyslexic I fucking hate writing essays. 40% of architects are dyslexic. I wouldn't be surprised if that was similar or higher in other creative industries such as filmmaking and illustration. Coincidentally 40% of the prison populat…

You're entitled to your opinion but this will open up a world of possibilities to people who couldn't work in these fields previously due to their own non-dyslexia disability. Handless intelligent people shouldn't lose out because incumbents don't want to share their lane.

So, the fall of the skilled professional and the rise of anybody who knows how to write prompts?

Re: Veo

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Post by thehappypm »

ugh123 wrote: post #219

From a filmmaking standpoint I still don't think this is impactful. For that it needs a "director" to say: "turn the horse's head 90˚ the other way, trot 20 feet, and dismount the rider" and "give me additional camera angles" of the same scene. Otherwise this is mostly b-roll content. I'm sure this is coming.

If you or I don’t see the potential here, I think that just means someone more creative is going to do amazing things with it

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Post by Jensson »

alt227 wrote: post #482
gnobbler wrote: post #481

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're entitled to your opinion but this will open up a world of possibilities to people who couldn't work in these fields previously due to their own non-dyslexia disability. Handless intelligent people shouldn't lose out because incumbents don't want to share their lane.

So, the fall of the skilled professional and the rise of anybody who knows how to write prompts?

The AI we have today has very little to do with writing prompts, you still need to understand, correct, glue and edit the results and that is most of the work so you still need skilled professionals.

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Post by skypanther »

arcticbull wrote: post #354
salamo wrote: post #353

The first thing I will do when I get access to this is ask it to generate a realistic chess board. I have never gotten a decent looking chessboard with any image generator that doesn't have deformed pieces, the correct number of squares, squares properly in a checkerboard pattern, pieces placed in the correct position, board oriented properly (white on the right!) and not an otherwise illegal position. It seems to be…

Similarly the Veo example of the northern lights is a really interesting one. That's not what the northern lights look like to the naked eye - they're actually pretty grey. The really bright greens and even the reds really only come out when you take a photo of them with a camera. Of course the model couldn't know that because, well, it only gets trained on photos. Gets really existential - simulacra energy - maybe a…

What struck me about the northern lights video was that it showed the Milky Way crossing the sky behind the northern lights. That bright part of the Milky Way is visible in the southern sky but the aurora hugging the horizon like that indicates the viewer is looking north. (Swap directions for the southern hemisphere and the aurora borealis).

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Post by DeathArrow »

ArchitectAnon wrote: post #456

I think the thing that most perturbs me about AI is that it takes jobs that involve manipulating colours, light, shade and space directly and turns them into essay writing exercises. As a dyslexic I fucking hate writing essays. 40% of architects are dyslexic. I wouldn't be surprised if that was similar or higher in other creative industries such as filmmaking and illustration. Coincidentally 40% of the prison populat…

>As a dyslexic I fucking hate writing essays

You can feed AI an image and ask it to describe. Kind of the inverse process.

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Post by seanw265 »

ArchitectAnon wrote: post #456

I think the thing that most perturbs me about AI is that it takes jobs that involve manipulating colours, light, shade and space directly and turns them into essay writing exercises. As a dyslexic I fucking hate writing essays. 40% of architects are dyslexic. I wouldn't be surprised if that was similar or higher in other creative industries such as filmmaking and illustration. Coincidentally 40% of the prison populat…

Your claim that 40% of architects piqued my curiosity. I wonder if this would have an impact on the success of tools like ChatGPT in the architecture industry.

Do you have a source for this stat? I can't seem to find anything to support it.

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Post by ranyume »

neverokay wrote: post #461

I really just need to make some porn with this stuff already and I feel like we’re all tip toeing around this key feature. Censored models are not going to work and we need someone to charge for an explicit model already that we can trust.

Noo! Think about the children!

(this post is sarcastic)

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Post by piloto_ciego »

motoxpro wrote: post #429
piloto_ciego wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I commented on this elsewhere, but being a negative Nancy is really a winning strategy. If you’re negative and you get it wrong, nobody cares, get it and right you look like a damn genius. Conversely, if you’re positive and get it wrong, you look like an idiot and if you’re right you’re praised for a good call once. The rational “game theory” choice is to predict calamity.

Yeah it’s funny that optimism in the long term is optimal and pessimism in the short term is optimal.

Right, but I think people sometimes get the “what constitutes long term” factor a little bit wrong.

I am still talking to a lot of people who say, “what can any of this AI stuff even do?” It’s like, robots you could hold a conversation with effectively didn’t exist 3 years ago and you’re already upset that it’s not a money tree?

I think that peoples expectation horizon narrowing down may be the clearest evidence that we’re in the singularity.

Re: Veo

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Post by piloto_ciego »

sshnuke wrote: post #416
brikym wrote: post #279

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Progress? There are loads of downsides the AI fans won't acknowledge. It diminishes human value/creativity and will be owned and controlled by the wealthiest people. It's not like the horse being replaced by the tractor. This time it's different there is no place to move to but doing nothing on a UBI (best case). That same power also opens the door to dystopian levels of censorship and surveillance. I see more of the…

> It diminishes human value/creativity and will be owned and controlled by the wealthiest people "When you go to an art gallery, you are simply a tourist looking at the trophy cabinet of a few millionaires" - Banksy

Then… isn’t AI generated art something that empowers the non-millionaires?
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