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Re: Mourning Google

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Post by LoveMortuus »

Grimblewald wrote: post #463
LoveMortuus wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While humans might not survive, the nature will. Should the worst happen. But I'm optimistic that humanity won't let things get this bad.

or humanity begins changing with its environments, becoming smaller to cope better with the extreme heat and humidity and in a few millions years sentient lizards complain on a forum over a bucket of RFH (rogars fried humanoid) about the terror of global cooling and how it's coming for them all.

That would be interesting, and then I could say that I'm not just 5 3 (158 cm) but I'm also slightly more evolved. Just kidding ^^

Re: Mourning Google

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Post by benterix »

ajb wrote: post #273
benterix wrote: post #253

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> See for example Sweden, or France for where this path leads to. I think mixing France and Sweden on this point makes no sense. France made a deliberate attempt to attract as many refugees (and, at the same time, non-refugee immigrants) as possible in a very short period of time; they understood where it leads to and backpedaled on too open policies but things want a bit too far and they need to deal with the conseq…

Is there a typo in your first para? You seem to want to compare France and Sweden, but both paras refer to France; I'm guessing you meant Sweden in the first.

yes, sorry for that

Re: Mourning Google

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Post by closewith »

coldtea wrote: post #465
closewith wrote: post #194

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Nobody's claiming nothing has changed, but that's not the source of the OP's grief.

The source of OP's grief is the changes he writes about. Or do you have some unique mentalist-style access to the "real source" that drives him?

Yes, that access is called perspective and it will come to you, too.

Re: Mourning Google

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Post by gerash »

The promo process at Google was broken even 10 years ago.

The executives including the CEO are also way overpaid.

My suggestion:

anybody who wants to be a decision maker (executives, CEO, middle management) need to do actual technical work on a continuous basis otherwise they're more of a liability with their out-of-date knowledge than an asset

Re: Mourning Google

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Post by nkohari »

gumballindie wrote: post #420
nkohari wrote: post #350

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Your definition of theft doesn't necessarily match the legal definition. It still remains to be seen whether training foundation models is fair use or not, and it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

Downloading copyrighted material and using it, let alone for comercial purposes, is theft. I am not allowed to download movies or music. Nor am i allowed to resell them if i did download them. Which is what openai did for some of its content. It is appalling that some people defend their crime. Not sure for what reason.

It's more complicated than that, though. If they did in fact use pirated content to train their models, that's almost certainly illegal. It's still not well understood whether they used illegal sources or not, and that should be determined in court.

Inference is where things get more muddled. If I download a pirated copy of La La Land, that's illegal. However, if I watch it and then explain the plot of the movie to you in detail, that's fair use. It remains an open question whether or not inference via an LLM represents fair use or not.

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