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OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by rsync »

valzam wrote: post #448
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #344

This almost feels like the confirmation bias that some religious people have where they see a “miracle” in everything. These AI researchers have bought into the belief that superhuman AGI is right around the corner. Thus, they will interpret everything in light of that. This also brings to mind the story of the Googler who was convinced that the internal Google AI had come alive. However, Bard doesn’t give the same v…

Apparently Ilya has been leading people in "feel the AGI" chants and "I can feel the AGI" is his catchphrase within OA. So yes, some people might have gone of the rocker a little bit.

No … no no …

That can’t be true.

Right ?

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by upwardbound »

alchemist1e9 wrote: post #449
coolspot wrote: post #398

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> about whatever you want Almost. Nor VPN, nor Tor are sufficient to protect you against NSA with global traffic view.

Nonsense. I bet NSA is way less competent than your fantasy world imagines.

He's not wrong; Tor is literally US fed gov sponsored. https://support.torproject.org/misc/misc-3/#:~:text=Tor%20is....

If they sponsor enough exit nodes, they have a view into traffic; similar to a crypto 51% attack

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by ShamelessC »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #291
lucubratory wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you read my comment?

Yes: > This article, predictably, tells us almost nothing about the actual capabilities involved. The article tells us all we need to know.

I've gotta say it really does seem like you didn't read their comment or are responding in bad faith.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by alienicecream »

famouswaffles wrote: post #138
zugi wrote: post #114

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None of us have seen the letter so this may be off base, but I would expect people working at the world's most prominent AI research organization to have more skepticism about the ramifications of any one "breakthrough." Perhaps most did, but a couple didn't and wrote the letter? More than 3 decades ago when AI started beating humans at chess, some people feared AGI was right around the corner. They were wrong. Last…

>Last year a Google researcher thought his chat bot was sentient ( https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/google-engineer-c ... .) He was wrong. You've figured out how to test for sentience ?

You don't need to, you can make a determination by proxy: if the claim is made by a crackpot, discard the claim.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by zeven7 »

htk wrote: post #6

Just when I thought the ride was over. The belief in what's in the letter could explain some things like how the board couldn't trust Sam to keep this "discovery" at bay, and how it could be better to implode the company than let it explore said technology.

Also could it explain why the board failed to provide a proper justification for the firing?

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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gadders wrote: post #60

Weirdly enough, this sort of lines up with a theory posted on 4chan 4 days ago. The gist being that if the version is formally declared AGI, it can't be licensed to Microsoft and others for commercial gain. As a result Altman wants it not to be called AGI, other board members do. Archived link below. NB THIS IS 4CHAN - THERE WILL OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE. https://archive.ph/sFMXa

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by 11011001 »

hervature wrote: post #107
ChuckMcM wrote: post #39

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I would be curious as to the basis for that trust. I struggle to find any reason that AGI would care about "humans" at all, other than during the short period of time it needed them to be cooperative actuators for machinery that is creating a replacement for humans that the AGI can control directly. My expectation for the chain of events goes something like: 1) AGI gains sentience 2) AGI "breaks out" of its original…

Why is the AGI interested in copying itself? Why is that more likely than the AGI becoming a nihilist, seeing no point in itself, and offing itself?

> Why is the AGI interested in copying itself? Why is that more likely than the AGI becoming a nihilist, seeing no point in itself, and offing itself?

Because suicidal nihilism would be a "bug" from the perspective of the builders, which they would seek to fix in the next iteration.

An interest in "copying itself" seems like it could fall out accidentally from a self-improvement goal.

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