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Re: Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gatekeeper for the web

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Post by bitwize » Sat, Jul 29, 2023, 4:03 AM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #300

bitwize wrote: post #196

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This is a very shallow and dismissive take on a serious issue.

This is exactly the take that Google, and companies interested in setting up WEI-enabled web sites, will adopt. When you're talking about business, technical details that will affect a tiny minority of nerds simply doesn't matter. What matters is what value can you capture from the lion's share of the market? And how much is it gonna cost you to support the tiny minority that remains?

Back in the 90s, much of the web was designed for Internet Explorer exclusively. A bit later, Flash took off. Both of these posed problems for users of niche browsers and operating systems, but from a business standpoint, nobody was complaining.

Re: Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gatekeeper for the web

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Post by msm_ » Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 12:01 AM UTC

urda wrote: post #249

voramok wrote: post #193

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As far as I am concerned the reputation of this Ben Wiser guy is so far down the toilet that there’s practically nothing he can do or say to recover it. Like the old joke goes “you screw a goat once…”

Both RupertBenWiser and yoavweiss reputations are fully gone from this. Pretty much the moment they closed an issue without a single comment [1], locked the repo from everyone else, and then a much later time claiming it was "spam" is a pretty dirty tactic [2]. [1] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... [2] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

I mean, is the yoavweiss in the wrong here? The #112 issue does look like spam (pretending to care about diversity in hope of making problems for the maintainer, because diversity issues are taken very seriously at Google).

Don't get me wrong, I hate this proposal too and I hope it gets dismantled and forgotten. But I would probably do the same, as an owner of a controversial repository that somehow got to the top of HN frontpage.

Re: Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gatekeeper for the web

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Post by darreninthenet » Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 8:04 PM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #357

darreninthenet wrote: post #325

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Did that and weirdly nothing seems to be excessive... indeed the Macs own performance monitor doesn't suggest anything is particular excessively using cpu or ram but here it is juddering away especially when scrolling pages. Three year old Mac btw... everything else runs pretty well... if I get a chance I might fire up Firefox in Parallels and see if it's a Mac issue

When you write "about:performance" to your address bar, and press enter, you should access to the internal performance monitoring page of Firefox. That should list every tab and extension by RAM use and power impact. Give it a go.

Tried going back to Firefox... seems to be running ok at the moment which I'm well happy with... no idea what was causing my problems before

Re: Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gatekeeper for the web

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Post by archerx » Thu, Aug 03, 2023, 3:47 PM UTC

allarm wrote: post #370

archerx wrote: post #333

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I wonder if locking my doors as well is discrimination according to you? No geoblocking doesn't make the internet a shittier place, you're blaming the symptoms/victims not the true cause. What is actually making the internet a shittier place is the bad actors, bots, scammers, scrapers, psychopaths and etc. Maybe those countries that get blocked should do more to stop those bad actors in the first place. Has China or…

Hey, quick question - why in your holy rage you’ve decided to ignore an important part of my previous comment? I don’t normally waste my time on people who act like this. If you read it and pay attention to it you’d get some answers you’ve raised. > Has China or Turkey ever contributed or paid for one of my projects/services? Have other countries? What about the countries that haven’t? Isn’t it completely unrelated t…

> holy rage The only one raging is you unless if you consider asking purposefully loaded questions is rage.

> Have other countries? What about the countries that haven’t?

Not every country has paid, but they also haven't launched a barrage of DDOS attacks, blatant scraping, and constant scanning for exploits and etc.

You're funny because you think defending one's site from hackers is "ruining the internet". You gave your naïve opinion and I have the right to disregard it and think that it is really stupid, don't forget.