Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

Post by throwaway894345 » Fri, May 26, 2023, 5:04 AM UTC

justapassenger wrote: post #450

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Eh, Tesla has already shown the world how to make commercially viable EVs. That's a torch the risk averse legacy auto manufacturers can take up, now that Tesla has done the derisking. Now someone needs to prove out self-driving, even at the risk of some short-term reputational harm. I don't think people realize the life-saving potential in solving this problem.

> I don't think people realize the life-saving potential in solving this problem. People do realize it. Especially people who specialize in building safety critical systems. And they are all aware that Tesla's doesn't do anything to build actually safety-critical systems. They just treat it as building a webapp for sharing photos of cats.

Post by justapassenger » Fri, May 26, 2023, 5:42 AM UTC

throwaway894345 wrote: post #481

justapassenger wrote: post #450

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> I don't think people realize the life-saving potential in solving this problem. People do realize it. Especially people who specialize in building safety critical systems. And they are all aware that Tesla's doesn't do anything to build actually safety-critical systems. They just treat it as building a webapp for sharing photos of cats.

In a previous job, I was hard real time systems engineer for a major manufacturer of agricultural and construction equipment (stuff that weighed tens of thousands of pounds and can kill you in an instant). Can you elaborate in greater detail what we all think?

Post by bombolo » Fri, May 26, 2023, 5:47 AM UTC

kbos87 wrote: post #444

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Teslas have a problem with phantom braking (e.g. when there's a dark shadow it fails to detect that it's a shadow before going from ~70mph to ~55mph). Myself and countless friends I know have experienced it but that problem has yet to be solved.

I drive a Tesla day to day (with the latest FSD Beta) - yes, phantom breaking was real - but it's been almost completely remedied for the past few months in my opinion - and I'd be shocked if other automakers (as was mentioned above also have these problems) are as quick to iterate based on feedback.

Post by DangitBobby » Fri, May 26, 2023, 5:49 AM UTC

stubish wrote: post #410

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People don't care. We have them because they cost less to build than having buttons.

Not touch screens, which have been rejected by most of the market. Tech like adaptive cruise control, collision warnings & automatic breaking, reversing cameras, lane assist, automatic parking, blindspot detection, spotify playlists. I've got a 25 year fully manual tin can with an engine just perfect for puttering around the local area at the 50km/h speed limit. I'm looking for another car with modern safety features…

Post by birdyrooster » Fri, May 26, 2023, 5:52 AM UTC

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I used to be a fan, then he showed up to the cave rescue operation with half a submarine, and in responce to crtiticism he called rescue divers pedoes. So I started wondering, can he be a good leader when he can't take criticism? How does he retain best pepple if his ego is this fragile? I am quite happy to see more people reassess him as he demonstrates capricious and callous behavioir, for exanple the Twitter aquis…

No, I won't, because I don't think he's a faultless person. In fact, I think he's quite an asshole, but I can rationally separate who he is from his long list of accomplishments. Just because you want him to be a failure or a con-artist or whatever doesn't mean he actually is.