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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by sleigh-bells »

ronnier wrote: post #476
labrador wrote: post #446

People in big cities get mugged, sometimes violently. This happened in Republican led cities when I was young. It happens in Democratic led cities now. It happens in London. It happens in Moscow. You can have policy differences with the government of San Francisco, but please don't capitalize on this tragic death to advance them. It's exploitive and disrespectful to Bob Lee's family. I know I'm whistling in the wind,…

China, Korea, Japan, has some of the largest cities in the world and violent crime is extremely rare in those cities. Crime was never on my mind when I lived in Tokyo. “Big cities” isn’t the cause.

Don't you know we can only compare the US to Europe???

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by redleggedfrog »

Dem_Boys wrote: post #469

Could someone please enlighten me on why we don't treat governing like we do software solutions? When I'm given a task to complete, my first instinct is to find where other developers have done what I'm asked to do and then utilize their wisdom into my own solution which will likely look very similar to theirs. Why do we see such drastically different approaches to solving issues in society and government? Want bette…

Crime is a for profit business for the perpetrators, politicians, and law enforcement, and the only victims are, well, the victims. There isn't much profit in peace.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by clsec »

joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

>Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent

Interesting that you say this after our progressive DA was recalled & our mayor is trying to supplement the SFPD budget by $27.6M.

Also interesting, I have lived in SF since 1972 and only been mugged once, in my 1st yr there (I was 7 & mugged by kids across the street in the projects for my Mickey M watch and about $0.50). I will freely and safely walk anywhere in the City at any time of day or night. And I'm an older guy.. This ongoing discourse is tiring.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by trentnix »

Dem_Boys wrote: post #469

Could someone please enlighten me on why we don't treat governing like we do software solutions? When I'm given a task to complete, my first instinct is to find where other developers have done what I'm asked to do and then utilize their wisdom into my own solution which will likely look very similar to theirs. Why do we see such drastically different approaches to solving issues in society and government? Want bette…

> Could someone please enlighten me on why we don't treat governing like we do software solutions?

We do. It’s called “product-market fit” in software. It’s called “elections” in democratic government. The government provides the services and competence its leaders, and consequently its electorate, demands.

San Francisco’s electorate demanded what it’s getting. As you can see just from these comments, “the facts” are twisted, distorted, and obfuscated to confirm a preferred narrative. But the faith in the narrative, whichever narrative you hold, never wavers.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by mr_beans »

chmod600 wrote: post #472

If the police and or DA won't protect you for political reasons, that's a pretty good argument that you should be able to defend yourself. It's fundamentally unfair to deny carry permits for decades and then also fail at effective policing. Most murderers have already committed a lot of crimes, sometimes including other murders. If the police are ineffective many won't be known or reported, but I will hazard a guess…

Agree. I started carrying during Covid and have had to draw once to stop a mugger attacking me when I was with my elementary school age kid on the way to the science museum downtown (Seattle).

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Post by ubermonkey »

Dem_Boys wrote: post #469

Could someone please enlighten me on why we don't treat governing like we do software solutions? When I'm given a task to complete, my first instinct is to find where other developers have done what I'm asked to do and then utilize their wisdom into my own solution which will likely look very similar to theirs. Why do we see such drastically different approaches to solving issues in society and government? Want bette…

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Post by zacharytelschow »

labrador wrote: post #446

People in big cities get mugged, sometimes violently. This happened in Republican led cities when I was young. It happens in Democratic led cities now. It happens in London. It happens in Moscow. You can have policy differences with the government of San Francisco, but please don't capitalize on this tragic death to advance them. It's exploitive and disrespectful to Bob Lee's family. I know I'm whistling in the wind,…

The countries biggest cities virtually all have Democrat mayors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_the_50_large...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by fed_up_ca »

martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

part of the problem is the city is refusing to arrest Honduran fentanyl dealers due to sanctuary city laws

the other part of the problem is there's a certain minority demographic who are responsible for 80% of the violent crime. Yes, it is racist to point this out but reality is racist. Europe doesn't have much of this demographic.

There's no good solution to this. 3-strikes laws from the 90s kept this in check but they all got rolled back as racist. Current progressive thinking is be lenient on violent crime and treat the perpetrator better than the victim. This is proving disastrous

Either American cities go back to harsh enforcement or they will continue to descend into Mogadishu-like chaos

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by flavius29663 »

brookst wrote: post #428
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

It’s of questionable taste to use someone’s death to advance your politics when the facts are known and can be fairly used as evidence that your tribe is right about something. It’s in poor taste indeed to acknowledge that you don’t know the facts of a murder, and to still insist that the killing supports your politics.

> use someone’s death to advance your politics

Are you shying away from discussing politics whenever there is a school shooting as well?

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