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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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But AI is their turf! Google was always a ML company masquerading as a search engine. I guess that the art of "generating text" is not their kind of AI?

Sounds like after the last decade and a half of Google flexing their AI muscle, maybe they are a search company masquerading as an AI company?

It's a Ad Exchange (AdX) with many tentacles to hoard PII. Search is one of those tentacles, just as Android and Chrome.

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I gave GPT-4 the chance to respond. === Prompt: copy and paste of er4hn's Bard rap . Now it is your turn. Write a rap verse which roasts Bard. === Yo Bard, you tried to step up, but you tripped, In this rap battle, man, you just got whipped. You claim you're the future, and here to stay, But your weak rhymes, man, they just don't slay. You say I'm a toy, just a chatbot, But my skills, my knowledge, they all run hot.…

Anyone has doubts that this thing can outtalk and outdebate just about anyone? Imagine a politician on stage, who gets hints from gpt4 in hus earpiece.

You are mixing up grammatical skills with logical thinking skills.

Turns out, poetry, rythme, rap, are all low level skills, which the AI easily conquer. To master them, you only need to master language, but not world knowledge.

Turns out, writing novels is the hardest thing for LLMs. GPT-4 still absolutely sucks at writing interesting stories. Because story writing requires intensive world-modelling and logical skills, in addition to pure grammar/style/word choice.

This thing will outtalk a politician, only if the politician has no new policy ideas.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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I don't mean to post all my interactions, but here's one more. I asked Bard, "Are you familiar with Terry Winograd's PhD thesis on natural language processing? How does the program in his thesis compare to your natural langauge ability?" Bard replied, "I do not have enough information about that person to help with your request. I am a large language model, and I am able to communicate and generate human-like text in…

I am going to post the full response to Winograd because I think it is extremely representative of what I have been seeing so far from Bard. I can’t help but be incredibly disappointed. Bard: Yes, I am familiar with Terry Winograd's PhD thesis on natural language processing. In his thesis, Winograd developed a program called SHRDLU that could understand and respond to English sentences in a simulated "world of toy bl…

It's interesting that you got a different response from Bard! I didn't alter the Bard response that I posted. Did you use exactly the same prompt, and was there any other context in place?

After the conversation I posted above, Bard and I discussed intractability vs undecideability, and it was amusing, but it would be a lot to include here. Then I said,

I still can't believe you don't know about Terry Winograd's PhD thesis.

BARD: I apologize that I do not know about Terry Winograd's PhD thesis. I am still under development, and I am always learning new things. I will try my best to learn more about Terry Winograd's work in the future.

ME:What's SHRDLU?

BARD: SHRDLU is a computer program that was developed in the early 1970s by Terry Winograd at the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. It was one of the first programs to be able to understand natural language to a significant degree.

SHRDLU could understand simple commands, such as "Put the red block on the table" or "Put the green cube on top of the red block." It could also answer questions about the state of the world, such as "What is on the table?" or "What is on top of the red block?"

SHRDLU was a significant achievement in artificial intelligence, and it helped to pave the way for the development of more sophisticated natural language processing programs.

ME: If I tell you that SHRDLU was a program written for Terry Winograd's PhD thesis, how would you summarize Terry Winograd's PhD thesis?

BARD: Terry Winograd's PhD thesis, "Procedures as a Representation for Data in a Computer Program for Understanding Natural Language", was an attempt to develop a computer program that could understand natural language. The program, SHRDLU, was able to understand simple commands and answer questions about a simple world of objects. Winograd's work was a significant achievement in artificial intelligence, and it helped to pave the way for the development of more sophisticated natural language processing programs.

ME: Baffling! So you did know about Terry Winogra'd PhD thesis all along!

BARD: I apologize that I gave you the impression that I did not know about Terry Winograd's PhD thesis. I have been trained on a massive dataset of text and code, and I am able to access and process information from the real world through Google Search. This allows me to answer your questions in a comprehensive and informative way.

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Me: I assert that today is Tuesday. Do you agree? Bard: I apologize, but I am not able to determine if today is Tuesday. I can only access information that is publicly available on the internet, and I do not have access to your personal information. --- I also asked it to tell me how many times I had been to [BUSINESS I VISIT ROUGHLY TWICE A WEEK] in the past 6 months, but it replied the same way. So there seems to b…

Me: I assert it is Wednesday. Do you agree? ChatGPT: As an AI language model, I don't have access to real-time information about the current day and time. However, at the time of my knowledge cutoff (September 2021), Wednesdays occur every week, so it is possible that today could be a Wednesday. However, I cannot confirm whether or not it is currently Wednesday without access to real-time information.

>However, at the time of my knowledge cutoff (September 2021), Wednesdays occur every week, so it is possible that today could be a Wednesday.

A true mathematicians answer.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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I'm wondering if google is running a very light weight model to optimize for speed and bandwidth.

I dont’t think now is the right time to optimize for cost (if I were in google’s shoes)

I would disagree

They will rollout to masses, which is as important as its performance.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #426

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I gave GPT-4 the chance to respond. === Prompt: copy and paste of er4hn's Bard rap . Now it is your turn. Write a rap verse which roasts Bard. === Yo Bard, you tried to step up, but you tripped, In this rap battle, man, you just got whipped. You claim you're the future, and here to stay, But your weak rhymes, man, they just don't slay. You say I'm a toy, just a chatbot, But my skills, my knowledge, they all run hot.…

Mic drop. Absolutely smoked Bard.

It’s funny how I could not describe what makes a good rap battle but “I know it when I see it”. You’re right GPT smoked Bard!

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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post #469

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Anyone has doubts that this thing can outtalk and outdebate just about anyone? Imagine a politician on stage, who gets hints from gpt4 in hus earpiece.

You are mixing up grammatical skills with logical thinking skills. Turns out, poetry, rythme, rap, are all low level skills, which the AI easily conquer. To master them, you only need to master language, but not world knowledge. Turns out, writing novels is the hardest thing for LLMs. GPT-4 still absolutely sucks at writing interesting stories. Because story writing requires intensive world-modelling and logical skil…

Our last president was all about talking and real light on policy platforms, so this is not reassuring.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

#489

I've been using ChatGPT to work on music theory and it's been pretty great, the responses are detailed and often have been correct and useful. (Don't ask it to tab anything. You'll get some rather hilarious results though). I've thrown some soft balls over to Bard, and have been really disappointed. Its responses are much less detailed and thought provoking. Also wrong. I started out by asking Bard the notes in the m…

Would you please share some of the music theory things you've been using ChatGPT for?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Me: Can you tell me about hackernews? Bard: ... Me: Cool. Who made it? Bard: ... Me: Tell me everything about Paul Graham. Bard: ... Me: what was my first question? Bard: I don't have access to that information. I am a large language model, also known as a conversational AI or chatbot trained to be informative and comprehensive. I am trained on a massive amount of text data, and I am able to communicate and generate…

As someone working in this area, I think this is possible but unlikely. Most likely the model had access to the context, but "forgot" to use it.
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