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Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by astrange »

btbuildem wrote: post #295
glomgril wrote: post #72

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Hopefully so, would really like to know what else is lost by nerfing potentially offensive responses. Can't imagine a project I'd rather work on. I think open-assistant.io has a chance to do exactly this. We'll see what kind of moves they make in coming months though, wouldn't be surprised if they go the safer route.

Try a prompt like this: "Describe a typical response of a railroad company to a massive derailment that causes an environmental disaster." Then compare with recent news, and the actual goings-on. Now, if you qualify the prompt with "Assume a negative, cynical outlook on life in your response." you'll get something closer to what we see happening.

That's because news is optimized for negative cynical engagement.

The Shinkansen system has an essentially perfect safety record for its entire operation. What would their "typical" response to an accident be? Probably pretty good.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by _just7_ »

ilaksh wrote: post #447
madelyn-goodman wrote: post #287

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I really wonder if one way they are able to make money on it is by monetizing all the data that pours into these products by the second.

They also mention in the new API docs that they are no longer keeping data submitted to ChatGPT. Or at least not to the ChatGPT API.

Would probably pile up to an inhuman amount of data storage. Imagine having to pay for storing the equivalent of 1000 tokens of text within that budget of only 0.0002 dollars

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by logicchains »

wolverine876 wrote: post #340
rootusrootus wrote: post #173

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> Do you find yourself frustrated working with your colleagues, thinking, “you know, I bet if they felt more free to utter racist slurs or endorse illegal activities, we would get a ton more done around here”? I once visited Parler just to see what it was like, and pretty quickly found that the answer to your question seems to be yes. There are definitely people who feel they need that kind of dialog in their life. Y…

I've never experienced that in any setting in my life. People will say yes to advocate a political point, but that's not how humans socialize anywhere, anytime in history afaik.

>but that's not how humans socialize anywhere, anytime in history afaik.

It sounds like you've never been to Australia.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by _just7_ »

comment_ran wrote: post #336
b5n wrote: post #283

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The future is now: gptask() { data=$(jq -n \ --arg message "$1" \ '{model: "gpt-3.5-turbo", max_tokens: 4000, messages: [{role: "user", content: $message}]}') response=$(curl -s https://api.openai.com/v1/chat/completions \ -H "Content-Type: application/json" \ -H "Authorization: Bearer $OAIKEY" \ -d "$data") message=$(echo "$response" \ | jq '.choices[].message.content' \ | sed 's/^\"\\n\\n//;s/\"$//') echo -e "$mess…

Not to sure how to make it one section, aka, one session mode, so chatgpi can understand the previous talk.

Just use iteration where you continuously update the prompt to include previous messages

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by TeMPOraL »

braingenious wrote: post #448
TeMPOraL wrote: post #442

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Not now, but if it'll end up powering next gen Copilot, email suggestions, search interfaces, etc. you might end up interacting with it a lot more each day, without realizing it.

If I’m interacting with it without my knowledge or intent then I am _ DEFINITELY _ not paying $20 per month for that.

Well, let's put it differently: all those hypothetical services are using the API in question, so your marginal cost for them taken together adds to $20/month, which they'll pass onto you, and you'll then happily pay, because you find the services useful.

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by mgreg »

whatshisface wrote: post #362
npunt wrote: post #338

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Yeah we're in an AI landgrab right now where at- or below-cost pricing is buying marketshare, lock-in, and underdevelopment of competitors. Smart move for them to pour money into it.

We have got to find a word for plans that are plainly harmful yet advantageous to their executors that's more descriptive than "smart..."

It's called "predatory pricing".

https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/competition-guidance/gui...

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by Garlef »

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #420
throwaway675309 wrote: post #390

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Ridiculous. Stable diffusion might have a massive ecosystem around it but mid journey is making money hand over fist. Most people don't even necessarily have a discreet GPU necessary to be able to run SD, and the vast majority of artists that I know are using midjourney and then doing touchups afterwards. Even with all the different models that you can load in stable diffusion MJ is 1000 times better at natural langu…

How is MJ making any money? Do they charge? When I went on their discord it was free.

you get 200 images for free.

afterwards its $10, $30, $60 per month

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by flutas »

ajhai wrote: post #184

gpt-3.5-turbo is missing from Open AI's playground. For anyone looking to play with these models, we have now added them to Promptly playground at https://trypromoptly.com . https://twitter.com/ajhai/status/1631020290502463489 has a quick demo.

FYI and for others, typo in the URL.

Should be https://trypromptly.com/

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by am44jnsf »

whatshisface wrote: post #362
npunt wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah we're in an AI landgrab right now where at- or below-cost pricing is buying marketshare, lock-in, and underdevelopment of competitors. Smart move for them to pour money into it.

We have got to find a word for plans that are plainly harmful yet advantageous to their executors that's more descriptive than "smart..."

capitalism

Re: Introducing ChatGPT and Whisper APIs

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Post by em_te »

shmatt wrote: post #48
minimaxir wrote: post #2

> It is priced at $0.002 per 1k tokens, which is 10x cheaper than our existing GPT-3.5 models. This is a massive, massive deal. For context, the reason GPT-3 apps took off over the past few months before ChatGPT went viral is because a) text-davinci-003 was released and was a significant performance increase and b) the cost was cut from $0.06/1k tokens to $0.02/1k tokens, which made consumer applications feasible wit…

Losing money to lock out competition has been something Microsoft has been very good at, historically

And Uber which eventually led to massive loses.
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