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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by dileepkr »

iKlsR wrote: post #406
dileepkr wrote: post #232

To all the iphone diehards, I recently switched from Samsung to iphone 14PM and I whole heartedly hate following things: 1. The keyboard in ios: its unintuitive and ancient compared to the android counterparts. And No, Gboard, swiftkey keyboard in ios suck equally bad too. 2. Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. This alone drains ~8% of battery overnight on my iphone an…

On a random note I used to be an "I'll never go apple guy" but having to do some app dev had to get one so got a 13PM and recently upgraded to the 14PM and also copped a Pixel 7 Pro and man... going back to Android feels like regressing, sure swiftkey etc is nice but every app feels lesser than it's ios counterpart in terms of polish and feel, ios gestures are also way better. I haven't used my Pixel in weeks outside…

I used to be that guy too :D First got and iPad, then Macbook M1 pro, then Airpods, then iPhone. So I got sucked in by the ecosystem, but I realize that such ecosystem comes with productivity benefits that otherwise isn't possible.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by dileepkr »

mrtksn wrote: post #385
dileepkr wrote: post #232

To all the iphone diehards, I recently switched from Samsung to iphone 14PM and I whole heartedly hate following things: 1. The keyboard in ios: its unintuitive and ancient compared to the android counterparts. And No, Gboard, swiftkey keyboard in ios suck equally bad too. 2. Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. This alone drains ~8% of battery overnight on my iphone an…

> . Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. You probably have an AirTag around you, there's a bug causing that. Update the AirTag firmware. > 3. Lack of the back button is a huge pain in the ass Swipe from the left edge of the screen to right, that's the iOS back button.

Ah I see, I don't have an airtag. must be my neighbour's. In any case, I don't want to pay the penalty for maintaining the network for someone else's airtag :(

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by mrtksn »

dileepkr wrote: post #482
mrtksn wrote: post #385

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> . Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. You probably have an AirTag around you, there's a bug causing that. Update the AirTag firmware. > 3. Lack of the back button is a huge pain in the ass Swipe from the left edge of the screen to right, that's the iOS back button.

Ah I see, I don't have an airtag. must be my neighbour's. In any case, I don't want to pay the penalty for maintaining the network for someone else's airtag :(

You can turn this feature off in the Settings under the Find My settings.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by acdha »

kaba0 wrote: post #477
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Android does have native code support, but do non-games use it commonly? The Android reviews I've read tend to mention that being a game thing when talking about why it's important to have more RAM. (And, yes, I should have said “Java's GC vs. ARC” since that tends to have higher peaks)

Android’s ART used to be a completely AOT approach (that compiled to native machine code on the machine at install time), nowadays there is also a JIT compiler that shares profiling information across devices even.

Yeah, to be clear my point is not that one is better than the other but simply that you can’t directly compare RAM without adjusting for the fact that they have different designs.

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Post by hot_gril »

kaba0 wrote: post #425
hot_gril wrote: post #308

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The other requirement being the home button instead of these awful swipe gestures and facial unlock? And compact size. Man, Steve Jobs got it right before.

Nah, swipe gestures are way better imo. Anecdotal, but there is a story that the design team (who were used to the previous button design) got so used to the swipes that they tried to do that constantly on their old phones as well. I would have agreed with you on the fingerprints being superior, but I have to say that I really can’t say anything bad about the face scanner. It is fast and accurate and very rarely fail…

I've been using this phone for a year and haven't gotten used to it. There are too many scenarios where the swipe you want is difficult to pull off. It used to be common UI guidance to use gestures for extra convenience but not to rely on them.

Like if I'm using the map, it's swipe up from near the bottom to open nav options or swipe up from slightly below that to open app switcher; keep in mind I'm probably doing this hastily at a red light. Lock screen is swipe up to unlock but also to look at notifications. Home screen is swipe down for notifications or control center, depending on which side, I always forget.

Facial unlock has a hard time with my glasses. I have to input my pin half the time. If I'm driving, I can't look at my phone. Also idk why it has to auto-lock immediately like I'm paranoid; there used to be a setting to delay auto-locking for 30min unless I press the lock button myself.

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Post by minusf »

satvikpendem wrote: post #114
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what choice is that? firefox or chrome based skins? a duopoly is not a choice. however silly it is, apple's silly browser rule is the only thing standing in full on chrome monoculture. chrome is the new ie.

Both Chrome and Safari are the new IE, but for different reasons; the former, pushing their own browser standards, and the latter, falling behind in standards and being a pain to develop for and use. Truly, Firefox is the only one that stops either.

mozilla is an org that lost its focus and goes after butterfly projects while their browser is the slowest and heaviest on battery with a tiny user base.

i am a firefox user everywhere except ios, where it's safari. i dont mind the diversity actually, use a safari integrated blocker, not much worse than ublock and i'm sure my battery thanks me for it.

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sidlls wrote: post #85
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For people with the means to afford it, iOS devices are superior in most ways: from performance to utility to lifetime. They lack features a rounding-error fraction of users care about, like side-loading for example.

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Post by hinkley »

acdha wrote: post #409
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Apple tried and failed to make a chipset to replace Qualcomm didn't they? I'd love to see them try again. And I feel like that's an area where their particular culture (of looking at vendors that make them resentful and trying to do something about it) might even put them in a place where they're willing to sell those chips or designs to other carriers because fuck Qualcomm.

I think it’s “tried but it takes a while” — and I’m sure the supply mess of the last couple years broke a lot of schedules. The most recent story I’ve seen has it a year or so out, so it’ll be interesting to see if that pans out or, especially, if Qualcomm comes up with some new legal angle to prevent competition. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-09/apple-pla...

Oh wow, so they're still chipping away at it.

I wonder if they'll roll it out on the iphone first or start with ipads and possibly the apple watch if they can get the power draw lower. That might be a good way to increase the battery life of those devices, lowering the gap between regular and low power mode.

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Post by acdha »

hinkley wrote: post #488
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I think it’s “tried but it takes a while” — and I’m sure the supply mess of the last couple years broke a lot of schedules. The most recent story I’ve seen has it a year or so out, so it’ll be interesting to see if that pans out or, especially, if Qualcomm comes up with some new legal angle to prevent competition. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-09/apple-pla...

Oh wow, so they're still chipping away at it. I wonder if they'll roll it out on the iphone first or start with ipads and possibly the apple watch if they can get the power draw lower. That might be a good way to increase the battery life of those devices, lowering the gap between regular and low power mode.

Yeah, I'd be really curious to know where the hangups are. My understanding of that field – in which I have no direct experience — is that there are a lot of hard edge cases to deal with and it would make a ton of sense to roll that out on a small scale first. I wonder what the tradeoffs are for something like the Apple Watch – the device is simpler in the sense that it does less than a phone but the battery constraints are quite tight.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by sidlls »

goosedragons wrote: post #462
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Apple's notification management is better than what I remember from my last Android phone (years ago, a Pixel, latest version at the time, I think in 2017 or 2018). Apple's app management is definitely mixed, but I find it quite easy to use as-is, certainly not deficient enough to be a deal-breaker. And most people--by far--don't care much about either item.

Android lets you easily disable notifications for some features of apps in settings. Apple is all or nothing and you have to hope that the app dev was kind enough to put granular notification settings in the app. It's also just better at stuff like in-notfication replies.

"Nobody" wants to spend 20 minutes configuring at that granularity: apple's is more than sufficient for 99.9999% of all use cases. All the supposedly superior Android features in this entire thread are things only a minute fraction of tinkerers actually care about.
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