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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by alasdair_ »

wfaler wrote: post #334
tlogan wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

Not sure he lied. I think he fooled himself into thinking that moderating a social media platform can be done on a rose-tinted ideological basis. Then reality hit, and the fact is, there are so many edge-cases that being ideologically consistent is almost impossible. Moderation is hard. And it matters, both to keep audiences & advertisers. Besides, First Amendment-based moderation is not even possible for an internat…

>Thailand & the UK have laws banning speech offensive to their royal families.

The UK may technically have some old law on the books stating this but it's never enforced. I mean, the Sex Pistols ("God save the queen... A fascist regime...") demonstrated this quite convincingly.

I did hear about someone getting arrested for yelling at Prince Andrew in a funeral procession, but that was for breach of the peace during a funeral and (importantly) was thrown out in court.

Growing up, I saw plenty of posters with words like "The great Royal debate: should we hang them, or should we shoot them?" and no one cared in the slightest.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by jrmg »

concinds wrote: post #417
operator-name wrote: post #361

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> We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms. In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above. I think it would be classified as cross posting a newsworthy event.

Cross-posting can mean posting the same content on two platforms, not linking to content on another platform. Linking to Facebook would likely still earn him a ban.

Yes - that’s what I interpreted it as. From the policy, Cross-posting covers when you “…post content to Twitter from these platforms…” (emphasis mine).

Of course, I suspect the reality is that even people at Twitter don’t know if this falls under the policy or not.

I’m not sure why people here keep talking about the post being ‘newsworthy’ - that is not mentioned in the policy at all.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

est31 wrote: post #236
KarlKemp wrote: post #121

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The obvious difference is that Github didn’t immediately start spiraling the drain in the most pathetic manner possible.

The worst is yet to come, I'm staying tuned if he really bans all those mastodon accounts. It's one thing to institute a policy and then remove it again once you realize that people are not following it. It's another thing to follow through with it.

Per his previous behavior, isn't it likely that he'll modify or cancel this policy if it proves too unpopular? Perhaps he'll put it to a vote in the coming weeks.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by modeless »

ancapsfascists wrote: post #465
modeless wrote: post #448

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Don't ascribe motivations to me without evidence. This is not a defense of Elon Musk. I think this policy is stupid. But our criticisms of it should be correct. Otherwise we're no better than our opponents.

There is tons and tons of evidence that Musk is moderating capriciously at this point.

You misunderstand. The person he was ascribing motivations to was me. My intent is not to defend Musk here.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by [deleted] »

modeless wrote: post #448
Chinjut wrote: post #418

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There's no need to defend Elon here. Clearly what will happen is highly capricious enforcement based on who he personally likes and dislikes.

Don't ascribe motivations to me without evidence. This is not a defense of Elon Musk. I think this policy is stupid. But our criticisms of it should be correct. Otherwise we're no better than our opponents.

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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by spritefs »

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bunch of backlash to this and he did the "Vox Populi, Vox Dei" thing again and backtracked like with the recent journalist banning

Why are we giving this guy so much mental real estate? I'd rather just shun him and his products, let him dig his own grave

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by synu »

nailer wrote: post #180
synu wrote: post #146

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I’ve definitely linked to my profiles on other sites before and never been banned or even warned.

There’s been reports of mastodon links being handled oddly for a while prior to this announcement. Not insta though. Odd Twitter considers them a competitor though Insta did get big through twitter originally.

I more mean “on various occasions over the last several years”

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by synu »

jrmg wrote: post #259
synu wrote: post #77

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I’m excited to check it out, signed up for the waiting list today.

Please don’t just move to another centralized platform. Mastodon is right there, and working.

I have a Mastodon, for what it’s worth, but never really figured out how to find a community that resonates with me. It’s quite possible I’m using it wrong in some way.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by Dreako »

troydavis wrote: post #49

(from another thread) Any attorneys want to weigh in on whether - or when - this becomes an anti-competitive/anti-trust concern, either in the US (FTC) or the EU? Related reading: * Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) Article 102, on abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position in a market: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures... . Any EU resident can file a co…

Instagram doesnt allow links in posts.

this isnt a lot different from that imo

Twitter honestly isn't big enough for regulators to give a damn, only like 20% of Americans use it monthly

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